Are there any GM employees on this forum?

[Tina C.]

I was wondering if there were any GM employees on this forum who might be able to help me with something. My uncle who passed, who some of you know as Budbrewer1, LOVED his 2 67 Z28'S.  I want to have the image of his 67 RS Z28 etched into his bronze headstone but the Monument company is requiring me to get permission from GM first. I emailed the GM Licensing department but have not heard back yet. So figured I would reach out here to see if anyone might be able to help me get my foot in the door with someone at GM to get permission.

Thank you in advance for any help you might be able to give me.

[bertfam]

Tina, I don't believe the image of a 1967 Camaro would need to have GM licensing permission. Just look on the internet. There are millions of them and I'm sure none of them are "licensed". However, I think Kurt might know someone in GM legal, so I'll see what he says.

Ed

[70L34]

I am. Send me a private message.

[Tina C.]

Thank you!! I just sent a PM. The Monument Company told me on the phone today that they sent the picture I want etched to their legal department who decided they need the trademark permission paperwork filled out. If I can't get permission,  they won't etch the car into the bronze plaque.

[69Z28-RS]

Tina,

If you take off all references to 'Camaro and GM' from the diagram you provided the monument company, they probably wouldn't even know what car it was...  OR do you actually want them to include the words 'Camaro' or 'Chevrolet' on the monument?   I suspect the WORDS you requested are what is violating the monument company's policy (and perhaps GM?) rather than the picture of the Camaro(s)...

Gary

[Tina C.]

I didn't request any words, just the image of the car. And you cant really see the word Camaro on the side. They said due to the stance of the car, they feel they need permission to etch it into the stone. So their legal team is requiring the permission form to be filled out from GM.

[Tina C.]

This is the photo of my Uncle's car that we sent them and the layout we sent for his headstone. I didn't put the word Camaro or Chevrolet on the stone.

[69Z28-RS]

I don't get that...  all that they can 'etch' in stone would be an outline drawing; have you thought of having someone make a line art drawing from your photos and send the monument company just the line drawing?

[Tina C.]

I am open to anything at this point, but trying to get the permission first, if possible. Just very disappointed because I was hoping to have the headstone on his grave before the end of the year. Doesn't look like that will happen now due to this setback.

[Charley]

Look for a different monument company.

[cook_dw]

I had a company put my father's L78 Camaro on a porcelain plate for my parents head stone.  No issues.  It'll be 12 years in Oct and unfortunately I can not remember the company the monument company used.  I do remember it taking about a month as it was done overseas.  I agree with Charley find another company.

[69Z28-RS]

Many (most?) cemeteries are so tied into the whole funeral/burial thing, that they may have a monopoly on all the parts...  hopefully Tina has a choice, OR maybe just her mention of looking for a different monument company will cause the first company to reconsider...

[jdv69z]

Just visited Rock of Ages company in Vermont in July. This is their business. Don't know who she is dealing with, but maybe another idea.

[Tina C.]

Trust me, I will be looking at all options because these cars meant the world to my Uncle. There is no way his stone won't have a 67 Camaro on it if I can help it!!! Just trying to get permission first since the company already cashed the deposit,  but if I can't get it I will be asking for it back to figure something else out.

[adjudimo]

I have known of and seen headstones that were etched by talented people who do this for a living and on the side. They own their own tools/equipment to do the work. Sort of like a person who does great body work and paint for a company. They sometimes set up a garage to do a side job from time to time. Lots of freelancers in several fields available if you search. Not trying to take away from legit companies that do this type of work, but everything comes in generic form this day and time. And to be honest, if you allow them the necessary time to do the work; it seems as though the work comes out better as well. I agree, shop around for other company/person.

[Mark]

Don't know where you are but Rome Monument in the Pittsburg area does photo etching, just has to be done on a darker stone.



I think we can all tell this is a jeep, don't know about any licencing they would have needed, but I don't think you need one for a picture of your own vehicle and you're not selling anything.

https://www.romemonuments.com/

[x66 714]

That's nice....Joe

[Kelley W King]

I would not ask anyone. Pictures of camaros are everywhere. If the picture is of YOUR car do what you want with it.

[Tina C.]

UPDATE: I was able to get in touch with a wonderful guy who works at GM and does Photo Licensing, his name is Larry Kinsel. He gave me the official ok, on GM letterhead, to use the photo on my Uncle's headstone!!!!!!!!!!! Just wanted to give everyone the update! Thank you to all who replied on this post, Budbrewer1 will have his 67 RS Z28 Camaro on his headstone!!!!!!

[ZLP955]

Fantastic news Tina! And well done to Larry. A very fitting tribute to your Uncle's passion for his Camaros.

[bcmiller]

Excellent.  I would not have thought you needed to go that far, but now you have absolutely no worries.

[68camaroz28]

Excellent.  I would not have thought you needed to go that far, but now you have absolutely no worries.

I agree Bryon but so glad Tina got it done. And Tina, you uncle is smiling down on you so great job!

[69Z28-RS]

Tina:  Please post a photo here when it's all done? 

[Tina C.]

I will, they just told me yesterday they should have the proof ready for me to approve soon.

[Tina C.]

I recieved the proof from the Monument Company,  once the plaque is placed in the cemetery I will get a photo, but this an idea of what it will look like (cemetery requires a bronze plaque where he is located)