Author Topic: Real L89 SS (Read 8474 times)

dannystarr · « **on:** June 27, 2018, 04:51:16 PM »

Is this car the real deal, or is it a restamp machine of deception? My friend found this on eBay and is intrigued. I am, of course, skeptical. Having just a couple letters with NO other documentation would make me nervous. Date Base Car??... Danny

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Chevrolet-Camaro-Super-Sport/323312447457?hash=item4b46ec6fe1:g:HGoAAOSwTmJaz8a0&vxp=mtr

bertfam · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2018, 05:29:11 PM »

Reproduction window sticker and in my opinion, the engine pad, transmission and rear axle stamps aren't factory original (the fonts aren't consistent with what I have in the database for that time period at LA). However, I would bow to Kurt (who's on vacation for a few weeks), as he has a lot more examples than I have.

And no, there shouldn't be a PTB stamp on a Van Nuys built Camaro!

For future reference, the VIN is 124378L338461

Ed

Arch Stanton · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2018, 07:41:08 PM »

Why does that V on axle code look like its been ground off, welded, smoothed, and stamped with the V on it? Hmmm.

Emo1956 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2018, 10:09:53 PM »

Hi everyone, that car is not real ! First the car has ARP head bolts. The valve covers are completely wrong for the car. Just look at the drivers side cover as it is hitting the wiper motor. I own a true L78 car and the stand for the wire holder is forward more and is a completely different shape. There are no engine life brackets on the motor. The numbers on the stamp are completely wrong.If that was a real car that would be a cheap price. If you look at how the alternator is mounted on the top bolt is wrong too. The bracket should be behind the top bolt. Way to many things wrong !

cook_dw · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2018, 10:15:18 PM »

I agree with Ed. I have several cars around this date and nothing lines up. I have issues with everything stamped.

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Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on June 27, 2018, 10:09:53 PM

Hi everyone, that car is not real ! First the car has ARP head bolts. The valve covers are completely wrong for the car. Just look at the drivers side cover as it is hitting the wiper motor. I own a true L78 car and the stand for the wire holder is forward more and is a completely different shape. There are no engine life brackets on the motor. The numbers on the stamp are completely wrong.If that was a real car that would be a cheap price. If you look at how the alternator is mounted on the top bolt is wrong too. The bracket should be behind the top bolt. Way to many things wrong !

Since you have a L78 would you care to send me the info so I can add it to my list?

Emo1956 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2018, 10:55:55 PM »

Hi Darrell, how do you want me to send it to you. I am restoring a x77 car too do you want that infor too ?

Emo1956 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:28:27 PM »

Hi Bryon every time I send you a email I get it back. I don't know if there is something wrong with my email.

bcmiller · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2018, 11:42:55 PM »

Ok I sent an email to you. See if that works. Your pic file size might be too large so try sending pic individually if over 5 mb.

Thumbs down on the car originally posted about in this thread. It’s not real in my opinion. Yes lots of things wrong.

Although not original, I would consider the ARP bolts an upgrade.

cook_dw · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2018, 02:00:27 AM »

Email.

cook_dw”at”hotmail.com

Replace “at” with @

Emo1956 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2018, 05:58:05 AM »

I called the owner and spoke to for about a hour. He seems like a real nice gentleman. He was under the impression that the motor was never apart so I mentioned the head bolts and valve covers and he just said OH !!

bcmiller · « **Reply #10 on:** June 29, 2018, 01:21:20 AM »

“Engine bay has never been touched”. Total BS.

169INDY · « **Reply #11 on:** June 29, 2018, 02:31:31 AM »

I looked at this car, * I think it was at the Chevy Connection Show room in Portland Ore. (On Stark Ave) a bunch of years ago.

Neat "Hot Rod" but think this one has been thru the ringer- Built & passed along like a (SPECIAL) COPPER penny.

The avidavit(s) bear NO weight in my mind given the Builder and lack of collective supportive evidense.

Emo1956 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 29, 2018, 04:43:40 AM »

This car is abortion ! these pics the owner sent me. I don't have to say a word the car is so bad !!! Look at the weld on the sub frame and check out the bottom pulley ! How did that bolt get behind the pulley ??

Emo1956 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 29, 2018, 04:45:10 AM »

Just look at the original carb lol lol

Emo1956 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 29, 2018, 04:53:52 AM »

Do you see something missing on the carb ? Nice original stamp ha ! I think mickey mouse did that 1 . Wrong shifter ,bell housing all painted. I wouldn't pay 20k. I asked him to get a pic of the oil filter because I want to see the oil pressure line to see if it is at least a 4 bolt main ! Nice original booster too !!!

bertfam · « **Reply #15 on:** June 29, 2018, 02:04:47 PM »

Fron ebay:

Quote

The listing you’re looking for is no longer available.

Looks like he took the auction down.

Ed

RUNUTZ · « **Reply #16 on:** June 29, 2018, 03:53:54 PM »

his mistake these cars are usually auction cars.Indy , Arizona....

bcmiller · « **Reply #17 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:30:43 PM »

I told him it’s all bogus.

Relisted...

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1968-Chevrolet-Camaro-Super-Sport/323322521916?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

Kelley W King · « **Reply #18 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:53:46 PM »

I remember someone saying the 074 heads made about 8.5 comp with closed chamber heads. Someone said 10.0 with closed 11.0 pistons. Which is closer? We are doing this with a 30 over L72 short block. The car has the makings of a nice street brawler but no more to me.

L78racer · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2018, 06:13:46 PM »

in the case of a LS6 crate engine #366250 from the 80's-90's- it had closed chamber piston with open chamber head. compression was listed as 10.25.

bcmiller · « **Reply #20 on:** June 29, 2018, 07:45:05 PM »

Quote from: Kelley W King on June 29, 2018, 05:53:46 PM

I remember someone saying the 074 heads made about 8.5 comp with closed chamber heads. Someone said 10.0 with closed 11.0 pistons. Which is closer? We are doing this with a 30 over L72 short block. The car has the makings of a nice street brawler but no more to me.

Exactly which pistons are you using?

Emo1956 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 29, 2018, 08:15:02 PM »

I can't believe he relisted that car for that price ! Who would be so stupid to buy it for that price. It must run real good missing the choke stove in the manifold !! lol lol So many things wrong with that car !

Kelley W King · « **Reply #22 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:19:54 PM »

A little late but we are using the factory type 30 over 11.0 to 1 pistons Bryon.

fsc66 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2018, 01:10:39 PM »

Window sticker definitely a repro , no doubt about that.......

Paul

bcmiller · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2018, 01:37:16 PM »

Quote from: Kelley W King on July 04, 2018, 08:19:54 PM

A little late but we are using the factory type 30 over 11.0 to 1 pistons Bryon.

I will check and try to respond back via pm.

L78racer · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2018, 07:10:07 PM »

and which head gasket?
GM steel shim is about .022" thick.
Felpro composite gasket is about .039" thick.
other factors: piston deck height, head chamber cc's.

KurtS · « **Reply #26 on:** July 17, 2018, 06:16:35 AM »

I actually might believe it is an L89 car. But the affidavits never say what drivetrain survived. Add Mark Young to the mix and the car becomes questionable.
Axle might be real.....
Car was for sale before.

bertfam · « **Reply #27 on:** July 17, 2018, 12:57:20 PM »

Kurt, are you saying that pad is a factory stamping??

Ed

dannystarr · « **Reply #28 on:** July 17, 2018, 06:03:10 PM »

That's what I was just saying to myself. The edge of the pad area looks smooth like it has been cut. Numbers all up/down and sideways. Would like to see the paint gone and close-up of that area. I am still learning, but I would stay away. Danny

KurtS · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2018, 08:48:44 PM »

Nope.
I think the car may be a L89. But that pad is a restamp as is the trans. I think the axle could be original.

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Author Topic: Real L89 SS (Read 8474 times)