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BillOhio

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Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« on: April 02, 2018, 10:55:38 PM »

https://ebay.to/2uAYhtD
Looks like the one underneath is different font?
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
1968 RS 327 4 speed
1967 Plymouth GTX Hemi, 4 speed, dana
1961 Chrysler 300G convertible

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 02:42:37 AM »
Mine looks like it was applied over another.
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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 03:17:25 AM »
*Different fonts used on both the stickers on the ebay car.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 12:22:24 PM »
Doesn't look like different fonts more like ink coverage on the print.  Sticker appears legit IMHO.  No comment on whether or not if the car is legit.

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 01:59:09 PM »
This is the  sticker
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
1968 RS 327 4 speed
1967 Plymouth GTX Hemi, 4 speed, dana
1961 Chrysler 300G convertible

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 02:19:11 PM »
 One thing I have noticed on repro stickers (besides the fonts and spacing not correct most of the times) is they have solid printing. By solid I mean they lack the typical missing coverage that typesetting produces. Instead, they have full coverage for each character. The sticker in Bill's closeup shows these voids in several characters which leads me to believe the sticker is authentic.
   
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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 04:20:51 PM »
So same font, but more ink used?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 04:31:32 PM »
 I'll guess and say it was a sticker change indicating the number of passengers?
My 67 stickers states 4 passengers + 200 lbs of luggage.

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 04:51:44 PM »
More likely the wrong decal was applied meaning not correct for the tire size and car.  The number of passengers were across the board by 68.  All had 1-5 passengers on the decal IIRC.  PSI rating on 15" were also different than 14" when HOT.  There are also subtle differences between repo and original tire decals.  Ill say it again decal is legit from what I can see but would prefer a more straight on shot to be 100% although I don't think it'll change my opinion.

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 05:30:16 PM »
I think the tire sticker is OK based on what I see.  I have seen it before where one sticker was applied over another.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 05:57:44 PM »
Sorry, didn't see an answer, so is the reason the font size looks different is because of heavier ink used from one batch to another? are the Z/28 stickers always thiner or does it just vary?
Are these questions to invasive as the answers would help those making fake stickers?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 06:12:53 PM »
 I wound't worry about making a 'fake' sticker. I've seen stickers with varying font size and boldness (thickness).
If one wants to make the perfect sticker, all you need is an original in excellent condition and use a good resolution camera and indirect lighting and import into Photoshop to get the circle size correct. The best thing about this method is you duplicate the fonts and positioning perfectly as well as maintain the typeset artifacts. I did just that when I needed a replacement 'R' sticker for the 67 convertible (the original glove box was dented and I replaced it in the 80's while not giving any thought to the sticker). I used the 'R' sticker from my other 67 and duplicated it perfectly. I may print up a batch and sell on eBay being the ones out there are not exact copies. No different than what sticker makers like Don Lightfoot do to make perfect copies.

Mike
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67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 06:20:12 PM »
I gotcha. Thanks for answering my question. So the easiest way for them to make a fake sticker though, is to start with an original, and then based on this example they could just stick it over another sticker if they wanted.
So in some ways is verifying a  68 Z similar to identifying a 69 L.A. Z car?
Since there is no X codes, you just going over components?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

Mike S

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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 06:27:24 PM »
  Sorry.....I'm stuck in '67 land  :)
I know very little on 68 & 69 especially when it comes to Z's and X codes.
But, in the case of this thread, I think what was stated about the wrong sticker applied initially makes sense. I wonder what can cause a 'wrong' sticker to be applied in the first place. It's my understanding that the sticker is affixed during car assembly.

Here is a link to some of Don's work. Notice the differences in fonts.
http://www.angelfire.com/rock/69ss/frame.html
Select specialized decals and you'll see a selection for Camaro tire pressure decals.


Mike

PS. I did approach Don about making the 'R' sticker, being he was looking for a good original before, and he said he was no longer making stickers.
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Re: Anyone seen tire stickers like this 68 Z?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2018, 07:21:37 PM »
I gotcha. Thanks for answering my question. So the easiest way for them to make a fake sticker though, is to start with an original, and then based on this example they could just stick it over another sticker if they wanted.
So in some ways is verifying a  68 Z similar to identifying a 69 L.A. Z car?
Since there is no X codes, you just going over components?

There are numerous steps to indentifying a 68 Z28.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

 

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