Author Topic: Need help decoding this cowl tag (Read 8763 times)

Emo1956 · « **on:** March 30, 2018, 09:02:32 PM »

Hi, I am thinking this car is a z-28 and I know after doing so much reading LOS tag can be very frustrating to decode. Also the W 3L . The 3 is a mystery to me. This car has a 12 bolt and it was a 4 speed muncie car according to the speedo cable being on the right side of the master cylinder. The car has multi leafs which I thought they never put in any 67 car . I think this car being a mid year car makes it all that much harder. Thanks everyone.

x66 714 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2018, 09:25:53 PM »

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

The 3 is a group so tinted windshield & rally sport ....Joe

bcmiller · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2018, 10:17:56 PM »

NOT a Z28.

What is the partial VIN on the Muncie? It’s either on the side or on the top of the main case.

How does the axle date compare to the tag (axle stamped info is on the front edge of the passenger side axle tube).

Emo1956 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2018, 11:01:32 PM »

There is no trans. I will have the vin # in about a hour or so. Did any 67 Camaros have multi leaf springs ?

Emo1956 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:08:18 AM »

The vin # is 124377L133073

bcmiller · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on March 30, 2018, 11:01:32 PM

There is no trans. I will have the vin # in about a hour or so. Did any 67 Camaros have multi leaf springs ?

No. See this link.

http://www.camaros.org/diffs67.shtml

ZLP955 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:47:02 AM »

Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on March 30, 2018, 11:01:32 PM

Did any 67 Camaros have multi leaf springs ?

No - see http://www.camaros.org/diffs67.shtml

ZLP955 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2018, 12:47:46 AM »

Duh sorry Bryon - must've been typing as you posted.....

bcmiller · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2018, 01:43:11 AM »

No problem Tim. It looks like my post was only a few minutes before yours.

Emo1956 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2018, 03:50:58 AM »

That's what I thought so someone added the multi leafs ! So is this car a Z or what is it ?

Arch Stanton · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2018, 07:49:22 AM »

Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on March 31, 2018, 03:50:58 AM

That's what I thought so someone added the multi leafs ! So is this car a Z or what is it ?

Not a Z28. It would have a 4L on the trim tag.
Looks like it was originally a 327 210 h.p. car, or, a 327 275 h.p. car at best.

Emo1956 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2018, 11:14:22 AM »

From what I read that 4L just started when this car was made.

bcmiller · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2018, 02:19:31 PM »

It’s not a Z28.

More reading for you at this link.

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

z28z11 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2018, 04:04:15 PM »

From the CRG 1967 cowl tag decoding link -

"The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."

Applies to both Los Angeles and Norwood if I read it correctly -

Regards,
Steve

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2018, 04:17:52 PM »

It's a blue on blue 327 car with tinted wind shield and rally sport option. Not much else.
Muncie and 12 bolt are not original.
Not sure what you saw that led you to believe it was a Z/28?

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2018, 04:24:26 PM »

Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on March 31, 2018, 11:14:22 AM

From what I read that 4L just started when this car was made.

What that means is there where a few early Z/28's with the code 4P before they broke it down to further define the code.
All 1967 Z's had a 4 code.
Lack of any 4 code means it is a 327 car at this point with a 124 VIN start.

Emo1956 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2018, 03:49:08 AM »

Ok junk that 1 lol......Next !

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2018, 04:50:50 PM »

Isn't this site great?

bcmiller · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2018, 10:30:27 PM »

Quote from: Bad ass Camaro on April 01, 2018, 03:49:08 AM

Ok junk that 1 lol......Next !

It may not be junk. What does the rest of the car look like?

Emo1956 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2018, 05:09:07 AM »

The problem is my friend is looking for another Camaro to add to his collection of cars which is many worth big $$$$$$$$. I have a 1967 Mo 302 that I am in the process of finishing after the motor has been in the family since 1970. I would love to see my friend get it with a nice 67 but I think I am looking for a needle in a very big hay stack. The car I was looking at was all hacked up and he was asking 10k. Yep there is some very smart people here !

bc69 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 12, 2018, 09:14:43 PM »

What has been the earliest documented L78? There are tags in question with August and oct 4k stamping. Also kinda same but also like to know if the approximate date of the Norwood switch from the 4P to the 4K and so on for other than the L48 and L30/M20 ?

bcmiller · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2018, 02:05:13 AM »

bc69

If an August or October tag has a 4K code, it’s a reproduction.

Some good reading here.
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

bc69 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2018, 03:03:54 AM »

Bryon
Have read that and thinking the same. But that hasn’t answered my questions. Is this a solid know fact or just info on record to date?

bcmiller · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2018, 05:09:38 PM »

I don’t have the exact date but I think first L78 was maybe late April.

Here is some good reading...
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1716.0;all

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