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Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« on: November 20, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »
In the process of freshening up the Alan Green Camaro. Trying to correct a few details. Paint question:

The current notes list the colors as:

'87-'93 GM Pickup White
'67-'68 GM Hugger Green Metallic

I'm no GM guy, but don't think these are the colors used in 1967. While the '67 color chart lists "Ermine White" (which I believe is the original base color) I find no reference to the green. I'm somehow reminded that Alan Green Chevrolet may have used a 'special mix' green of their own concoction, as used on the Alan Green Cheetah. Can anyone confirm this, or point me in direction of correct color(s)? Thanks

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 05:18:19 PM »
I think the Nova has been restored. May be the same color? Pictures of the Nova appear on the HAMB from time to time.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 06:42:22 PM »
Jon Mello knows all things Trans Am Camaro, hopefully he'll see this and give you some answers.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 01:57:02 AM »
The Green on the T/a car sure looks groovy, brite metallic green with medium flake
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 04:07:47 AM »
'87-'93 GM Pickup White
'67-'68 GM Hugger Green Metallic

I have personally never heard of "Hugger Green Metallic". The color looks a lot like the 68 Rally Green. It may be a custom or color that GM offered for another line.

As for the "87-93 Pickup White", that's certainly not what they used in 67. But it could have been any white offered by GM, not just Ermine White.

Or they could have been anything from a paint manufacturers color chart or another car manufacturers line. When you're looking for a showcase color, you just don't have to stay brand specific.

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 04:23:34 PM »
The car was originally T-T Capri Cream. I don't know the shade of green they used for the stripes. In '67, the pinstripes around the stripes were left black and only the inside of the stripes was green.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2017, 08:49:06 PM »
Thanks, Jon...
I vaguely remember being told the green color as a custom AG mix, since the dealer had a body shop, it would have been easy.
Will check the many period photos I have (mostly b&w) for the black outline.
Thanks again

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2017, 09:21:36 PM »
Do you have this one?
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2017, 03:16:26 AM »
Stripe goes around camaro emblem on the trunk Nice touch to do this

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2017, 03:17:49 AM »
Chevrolet emblem I should say

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 03:53:27 AM »
Thanks for the pic. Yes, I have this one, but not as clear as this. Definitely a black surround. Number and circle, too.
Are those emblems "Chevrolet" and "Camaro"? Car currently has neither. Thanks!

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2017, 04:45:17 AM »
Here's a color pic of the car from Sebring in March '67. You can see the white roundel for the number is not the same shade as the color of the car. Even in a b&w shot you can see the shades are not the same. The letter T is the paint code used for Capri Cream that year. The green has got to be a custom shade. I've never seen a stock GM green that looked like that.

The rectangular emblem below the Chevrolet emblem on the trunk does say Camaro on it. If you're going to leave the rear spoiler on Tony's car, and I assume you are, then you should forget about bothering with the emblems as they would mostly be covered up by the spoiler if left in that position.

Also, note the "Alan Green Chevrolet" lettering on the fender was originally black, not green.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2017, 05:08:56 AM »
Thanks Jon (and all) for the great intel.
I am hoping to convince the owner to ditch the rear spoiler, and add in the black as needed.
If the spoiler is a must, maybe we can add a '68 spoiler.
If needed, I'll mount the emblems higher on the deckled as was done for spoilers.

This photo will go a long way to making my case.
More to come....Happy T-day!

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2017, 08:12:54 PM »
First happy Thanksgiving day !

Don't want to divert the thread, wondering why the "Green" '67 Camaro changed colours during the '67 season. Later in the year the car is a dark colour with no stripes, I only have B&W pics.

In '68 the car is dark (is it Green ?) with white stripes, Jon had posted a photo of the car at Kent. Is this the '67 car skinned as a '68, side markers, no vent doors ?

I have seen a slot model of the car,  the Sebring '67 colours are reversed.

Not sure about the accuracy of some results on the net, some on "Racing Sports Cars"  I have these, I think Jon might have put them up here somewhere at some point. Not sure about Kent at the bottom of the list, two different events ?

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2017, 08:22:26 PM »
Here's a pic of that slot car I mentioned in my last post.

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2017, 09:17:20 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Brian.  I would love to see you talk Tony into ditching the rear spoiler and having it look just like it did at Sebring. That would be seriously cool.

Mike, yes the 2nd Kent race was from '68, the other races shown are from '67 although this car was not at all of them so I'm not sure why they are listed like that. The car did get changed to dark green in late '67, I'm not sure why they didn't wait until after the season to do it. The green on that car model is not accurate but I don't think I have a color picture to show you.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 05:28:28 AM »
Here's a color pic of the car from Sebring in March '67. You can see the white roundel for the number is not the same shade as the color of the car. Even in a b&w shot you can see the shades are not the same. The letter T is the paint code used for Capri Cream that year. The green has got to be a custom shade. I've never seen a stock GM green that looked like that.

The rectangular emblem below the Chevrolet emblem on the trunk does say Camaro on it. If you're going to leave the rear spoiler on Tony's car, and I assume you are, then you should forget about bothering with the emblems as they would mostly be covered up by the spoiler if left in that position.

Also, note the "Alan Green Chevrolet" lettering on the fender was originally black, not green.


Allowing for photographic 'interpretation', the green color in this photo appears very, very close to the trunk lid color that we found under the white. I believe this trunk lid was once painted green, perhaps the one time the car ran green with white 'outline' stripes, or maybe from the sister car that was reportedly painted in an opposite fashion.

Maybe another GM green available in 1967. Maybe a custom mix.

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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 05:58:30 AM »
Cadillac had a firemist color that was close to this. But I thought the firemist colors were early '70's.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2017, 03:37:58 AM »
Show us a picture of the green paint you're talking about, Brian. You're saying it's the same color as on the slot car?

Attached is a photo of Gary Gove sitting in the car in late '67. It sure seems to be a dark green at that time. Also note the interior is basically all black unlike the black and gray combo it is now. Tony has a binder on the car with Gary Gove's phone number and address. Try contacting Gary to see if he knows what color green they used. Also, the original mechanic Larry Webb may also know, if he is still around.
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Re: Paint colors on the Alan Green Camaro
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2017, 03:43:50 AM »
Here's a colour chart for '64 Cadi's, they offered a green in "Fire Mist & Fire Frost" through '67 and beyond.

Google Cadi Colour charts for various years, I didn't want to post them all here.

Once again, colour reproduction is not the best, and I'm sure some of these charts are faded.

Mike