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jim28607

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Reverse Lockout
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:33:39 PM »
Hello All !!

I am interested in installing the reverse
lockout linkage on my 69 BB RS/SS 4 spd ,
It seems there are a few variations of this and
I am not sure which version belongs in my car ,
I do know that there are 3 holes in the frame
at the mounting location
But only two of the holes are threaded .

Any help or direction is greatly appreciated !

Thanks
Jim

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 03:11:52 AM »
Finding the parts seems to be the biggest problem today, as so many of them got 'tossed' when headers were installed...
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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 11:04:39 AM »
I have found a 3 tab mounting and
a 2 tab mounting , just not sure which is correct ?

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 11:16:37 AM »
Jim, there used to be a great tech article in PDF format here: http://www.worldwidecamaroclub.com/forum/tech-articles/1st-gen/1560-1969-reverse-lockouts
which provided reference pictures and a list of part numbers for the subframe pivot/swivel mechanism and upper/lower linkage rods, for each engine/trans application. It doesn't seem to be available anymore, but I'm pretty sure I saved a copy somewhere. It's probably on an old computer, but I'll try and find it.
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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 12:40:09 PM »
Lock-out parts are different between automatics & 4-speed.

Only Muncies used the two-tab swivel mount & upper lock rod 3945599. Small-blocks use lower lock rod 3955773; big-blocks 3955776. Saginaw 4-speed parts are not the same.

The '69 Camaro Assembly Instruction Manual is a great reference.

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 04:56:41 PM »
Someone from the group provided this picture when I had a question; hope it helps (and I still haven't purchased mine, but Heartbeat City lists one)
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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 10:05:53 PM »
This is great information,
Thanks for the help and keep it coming

More pics too please !!
Best to all,
Jim

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2017, 12:35:54 PM »
Lock-out parts are different between automatics & 4-speed.

Only Muncies used the two-tab swivel mount & upper lock rod 3945599. Small-blocks use lower lock rod 3955773; big-blocks 3955776. Saginaw 4-speed parts are not the same.

The '69 Camaro Assembly Instruction Manual is a great reference.

Thanks, so is it safe to say
that since my frame has only
two of the theee holes threaded , that the car was a factory muncie car?

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2017, 07:21:01 PM »
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Lock-out parts are different between automatics & 4-speed.

Only Muncies used the two-tab swivel mount & upper lock rod 3945599. Small-blocks use lower lock rod 3955773; big-blocks 3955776. Saginaw 4-speed parts are not the same.

The '69 Camaro Assembly Instruction Manual is a great reference.

Thanks, so is it safe to say
that since my frame has only
two of the theee holes threaded , that the car was a factory muncie car?

That, or a fastener was left off at assembly ( which is very possible)? The subframe could have been replaced? So, an assumption can be made , but not a factual assertion. You would want to look for the hole in the firewall as a better clue of your car being muncie equipped.
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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2017, 09:45:41 PM »
Lock-out parts are different between automatics & 4-speed.

Only Muncies used the two-tab swivel mount & upper lock rod 3945599. Small-blocks use lower lock rod 3955773; big-blocks 3955776. Saginaw 4-speed parts are not the same.

The '69 Camaro Assembly Instruction Manual is a great reference.

Thanks, so is it safe to say
that since my frame has only
two of the theee holes threaded , that the car was a factory muncie car?

That and the Muncie-only speedo cable routing.

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Re: Reverse Lockout
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2017, 09:15:35 PM »
Now if we only had a header brand and part number that does not interfere with the linkage you would be all set.
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