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« on: January 31, 2007, 03:10:40 PM »

I have an early production Z/28 behind my rear seat i can make out a yellow crayon mark of 3 and some letter infront of it maybe an R
i'm worndering if any one can help me decode those crayon marks??? thanks aton
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2007, 03:42:07 PM »

Should be an X3, X7, X1, X2, X6, etc.

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2007, 06:10:24 PM »

I have an 11D Z/28 car and my grease pencil says DG3. I have a dark green interior. Another early car I saw has an R1. I guess red interior X11 car. Maybe the same person or shift.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 08:21:42 AM »

I have an X77 Hugger Orange Z and have an X7 on my bulkhead, and found "ORN" or "ORG" on the firewall. My memory is a little fuzzy this morning.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 09:41:07 AM »

Here is a shot of the "X1" on my car.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2007, 01:26:48 AM »

I found yellow crayon marks on the underside of the front subframe of my '68 if that helps anyone.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 10:52:45 AM »

My X7

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2007, 01:16:08 PM »

My X7



An here is my 68 11A bulkhead marking:

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 09:06:18 PM »

Just checked my 11C 69 Z/28 and there is an LG7 on the bulkhead. I guess this stands for "light green X77". My trim tag is 721 (medium green interior)
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 09:39:30 PM »

Sounds like the same folks built our cars. I am a week after you.  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2007, 02:12:53 PM »

so all you need to see the marks is remove the rear seat, correct?

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2007, 10:38:17 AM »

so all you need to see the marks is remove the rear seat, correct?

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Yes - pop out the rear cushion, then remove two bolts through the tabs on the bottom of the rear back cushion and lift it off its hanger brackets.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2007, 07:27:39 PM »

The reddish color on V1009DZ's pic, is that the factory primer or what?  In Jerry's book he said floor pans could be semi-gloss black, mine were the color of V1009DZ's rear bulkhead.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007, 11:44:41 AM »

Here is a pic of a non X code SS I once owned with an X5.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w272/dannylcmc/100_1004.jpg
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007, 02:58:59 PM »

The reddish color on V1009DZ's pic, is that the factory primer or what?  In Jerry's book he said floor pans could be semi-gloss black, mine were the color of V1009DZ's rear bulkhead.

Yup, that's factory primer.
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2007, 08:58:21 PM »

Just took the seat out of my X22 L89 and took this pic.
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2007, 08:36:45 PM »

Just folded down the seat in my 12B RS/SS and found a small X 1. There is no X code on my trim tag. Also, there is almost no red primer behind/under my seat or under the carpet. Mostly body color.

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2007, 09:14:07 AM »

Also, there is almost no red primer behind/under my seat or under the carpet. Mostly body color.

John

That's because it has a fold-down rear seat back, and that area is exposed when the seat is folded down.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2007, 12:57:58 PM »

Just curious, Has any markings been found for Z11 or Z10 cars?
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2007, 02:45:40 PM »

Hello to all, since I'm new here, I need some help with my 69 Camaro.  I just recently started a restoration and I've found what appears to be a yellow crayon mark on the bulkhead between the passenger compartment and the trunk, it is X1, does anyone know what this mark might have indicated?  Thanks in advance....Clint
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2007, 04:15:51 PM »

Pace cars have X0 on them (I assume to indicate the need for Z28 style stripe override).  I have never looked at mine to see if its there or not, but next time the seat is out I will.  Don't know if anyone has ever looked on a Z10 (at least I don't recall a discussion on it) maybe they have an X0 as well.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2007, 09:03:25 AM »

05D X-33 Fathom Green/Dark Green interior with DG-3 bulkhead mark.
X-44 project with Dark Green interior with DG-4 bulkhead mark.
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2007, 05:58:18 PM »

Dean,

Several years ago I had my seat out to install a new shelf.  I don't recall seeing an X mark.  During the holidatys I'll take it off and take a look.

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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2009, 12:29:36 PM »

I have not heard definative info on these crayon marking anomolies. I have a '69 Norwood 10A (1968) with a "LG7" on the bulkhead.  This car had a "Light Green" comfortweave interior originaly. Is anyone tracking these data points? I have a picture somewhere if needed.

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2009, 11:31:57 PM »

Here is a photo of the crayon X7 on my passenger's side rear bulkhead 1969 03B X77 72 72 Camaro.

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq270/OneNineSixtyNine/DSC00045.jpg
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2009, 09:55:47 PM »

Here is mine in case anyone would like to see it.



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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2009, 09:26:53 AM »

For additional reference, here's the mark on my 69 Z. Trim tag is 10B, Oct '68

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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2009, 03:19:33 PM »

I have an x77 car, no mark on  rear bulkhead. Does anyone have a car with out mark behind seat? BTW I am pretty sure it's real, I've posted tag on here before.
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2009, 04:27:22 PM »

I have a 10C (1969) X11 car with no marking behind the seat.  The only "graffiti" present are what's left of the PTB stamps.  Is is possible to see the faint outline of an extra stray "T" from the PTB on the driver's side of the firewall.

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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 05:40:43 PM »

For additional reference, here's the mark on my 69 Z. Trim tag is 10B, Oct '68

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Jimmy,
Is that a Norwood car or LOS?

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« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2009, 08:31:42 PM »

Jimmy,
Is that a Norwood car or LOS?

Mark -

Jimmy's car was built at Norwood.     Wink

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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2009, 11:05:41 AM »

Yes, mine's a Norwood car, and it currently resides not five miles as the crow flies from where that plant used to be.

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2009, 06:39:09 AM »

Interesting.

I was guessing the code anomolies such as mine were an "early" thing, but based on his "normal" looking codes that theory goes away. Our cars are only a week apart.

Maybe it had something to do with specific interior colors or combinations?  We may never know for sure.

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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2009, 10:04:54 AM »

Yes, until recently I assumed only cars with X coded trim tags had the crayon markings. Then someone on this site mentioned that his early car (close to my build date) had the markings, so I decided to check my car to see if I had them. Sure enough they are there. I  had the car for 25 years  before finding this out. I do have an X code, it's just not on the trim plate. My package shelf doesn't look so great, but I'm glad it has never been replaced. The markings might have been lost if the shelf had been replaced.

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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2009, 06:28:20 PM »

Thats not just a 69 thing.  4K 67 cars have a K there too
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« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2013, 05:57:02 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2013, 01:55:19 PM »

One X4 here

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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2013, 04:07:02 PM »

my 12a 69 has x2 crayon, not on trim tag.
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« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2014, 10:47:03 PM »

My Z10 had X0
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2014, 09:36:40 PM »

Has anyone ever found any marks in this area on 68 Camaros?
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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2014, 10:12:05 PM »

My 01C Norwood built '69 RS; X1 and what looks like a B to the left of the X
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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2014, 06:25:37 PM »

Looked at an x33 that a friend is working on and wanted to share. Car is a 12B with x code.  Found this behind seat. Car has been off road for years. Has CEA block header/side pipes, 4,88 gears. Painted pearl white with green stripes. Fathom with green interior. Interesting car
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« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2014, 10:30:12 PM »

Good post Bill . Lets see a new post with some updated pics of your car for the spring, I gotta think it should be pretty close to being ready right?
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2014, 01:23:14 AM »

I actually saw it today! It has no paint but it is moving along. There is a car there he's finishing up then mine will be ready for paint. He has the doors adjusted and it has been blocked once. My passengers doors was out at the rear bottom far enough you could put your fingers under the edge
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2014, 03:51:38 AM »

I look forward to you and Jano's cars coming together, and then hopefully we will see James (Ko-lec-tor) car in progress!
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