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« on: January 29, 2007, 03:07:58 PM »


 ???I could not find a RPO code in 67 for a low fuel warning light. Was this option available in 67?  If so, where would it appear? On the dash or in the gauge package? Was it just a warning light or did it say Low Fuel? Reason I ask, I am in the process of installing a new underdash harness in my 67 Camaro. I have the gauge package on the floor console and it is a automatic. There is a connection I can't find where its goes from the harness. I have all the dash hooked up, the glove box light, ash tray light , cigarette lighter etc etc. Or is this there in case some one has it and instead of having to buy a special harness it is included in the harness.? I bought the harness through Rick's First Gen. Pretty simple to install and really cleans up the underdash.

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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 03:49:15 PM »

dab,

For 67-69 the low fuel warning light came as part of the console (D55) option. Since the fuel gauge was "so hard to see", Chevrolet put a "Low Fuel" indicator inside the speedometer (lower left side) that would flash on and off when the fuel level became lower than (approximately) 1 or 2 gallons. The extra connection you have is probably the low fuel warning "sender". It looks kind of like a light bulb connector (see the picture). Is this what you're talking about? (NOTE: The picture is from a 68/69 gauge cluster, but the "sender" is the same for 67.)



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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 04:36:32 PM »

Hi Ed -

   Beautiful photo! I'm curious, why is the fuel warning sender taped to the bottom of the gauge cluster housing instead of being mounted in the hole between the fuel and oil pressure gauges?  Mine is mounted in the hole. Just curious, that's all.

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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2007, 04:48:36 PM »

Paul,

Mine is also "mounted". I got this picture somewhere (off of ebay ?) a few years ago, and saved it because of the great picture quality, but have no idea why it's not "mounted". I don't think it really needs to be since the black wire is ground, and it's hooked up correctly.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2007, 05:35:06 PM »

Hi Ed -

   I wasn't concerned with it being grounded (I could see it was). I was thinking more about the air circulation in regards to keeping electronic parts cool  Cool. I know it doesn't get that "hot" inside the console, but my experience is that if you can keep electronic parts cool you will increase thier life span. I've changed more than my share of electronic ignition modules, mass air flow sensors, crankshaft sensors, etc. that would only fail when they got hot. I just was thinking that aluminum tape is some pretty heavy duty stuff (heat retention wise) and was wondering if you Camaro experts knew of some trick? Thanks!

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 06:03:13 AM »

Ed:

Great picture and info! I was going to wait until this weekend to check it out but instead drove out to my friends house where we are working on the car and sure enough, that is it!!!! My friend had guesed that but did not know where it was mounted. So sometime this week he will hook it up.

Again thanks for the picture and great info

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2007, 04:53:38 PM »

Ed thats my guage cluster from my 69RS, it was never on ebay but my guess is you grabbed it for reference from Team Camaro. Glad it helps folks  out. I was slamming the console together to get to a car show that year so I just taped it in there and like so many projects, never got back to it Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 04:57:53 PM »

Ah ha!!! Thanks Jim. Most of the time I never remember where I get these things from. Nice to give credit where credit is due this time.

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2009, 05:09:46 AM »

Old thread I know..
But in the above picture, where does the yellow wire head off to from the low fuel warning mudule?
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2009, 05:12:43 AM »

Just found out..

"The yellow wire sends the Low Fuel signal to the Dash Indicator"  Wink

Of course!  Roll Eyes Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2009, 08:21:29 PM »

this is my original gauge cluster with harness and the low fuel sender is mounted in the hole at the bottom.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 08:33:37 PM »

When the Fuel light comes on, does it flash on and off or remain "solid"?
I have the module but am a little way off fitting it..
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 11:17:44 PM »

Mine comes on occasionally when it's to about 1/4 tank if you go around a corner or up and down hills.  It comes on and off as the fuel sloshes around when it's low.  When it gets really low, it stays on.
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2009, 08:06:09 PM »

Mine comes on occasionally when it's to about 1/4 tank if you go around a corner or up and down hills.  It comes on and off as the fuel sloshes around when it's low.  When it gets really low, it stays on.

That is what mine does as well
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2009, 06:12:33 PM »

mine worked up till about 6 or 7 years ago , haven't been able to purchase the low fuel module to fix it with but I am gonna try again this year !
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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 07:54:33 PM »

mine worked up till about 6 or 7 years ago , haven't been able to purchase the low fuel module to fix it with but I am gonna try again this year !

Did you check to make sure the fuse like device that fits into the module is still good? Mine plugs in like a light bulb.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 10:36:54 PM »

Mine comes on occasionally when it's to about 1/4 tank if you go around a corner or up and down hills.  It comes on and off as the fuel sloshes around when it's low.  When it gets really low, it stays on.

That is what mine does as well

Thanks.. The reason I ask is because it shows a blinking red FUEL light in the Corvette in the movie Boogie Nights. 78 or 79 model?
So, unless that is unique to Corvettes, I thought that's what they all did..
I'm glad to learn at keast that the Camaro ones don't.. What a distraction that would be!
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2009, 09:22:08 AM »

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Did you check to make sure the fuse like device that fits into the module is still good? Mine plugs in like a light bulb.

? did not know it had a fuse ? if I check it and its blown can you buy a new one ?
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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2009, 10:42:50 AM »

I am using the term "fuse" very loosley here. The item that I am talking about plugs into the low fuel lite module...on my 69 it does anyway.

Get to your low fuel module and take a look at it. I would like to know if yours is similar to mine.

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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2009, 04:29:42 PM »

I took the console gauge top off and the low fuel sending module has a socket for a BULB/FUSE to push into it but it won't go into the mounting hole with a bulb in it and the gauge pod has never been messed with it never has had a bulb in it , light worked 10 year's ago when I got the car and stopped working about ? maybe 6 or 7 year's ago , I have decided that it is not ever gonna be worth $60 plus buck's of MY money for the light to work so if nobody ever come's up with a fix for my original now non working module that I can do out here in the yard for free the light will never work again ,, I'd give maybe $10 to $15 buck's for a working new module but $60 just ain't realistic for something that you don't need anyway ,,
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2009, 04:19:46 PM »

Mine did not mount into a hole in the console it was just laying on the carpet under the shifter. It is not suppose to mount into any hole is my understanding. Again mine is a 69 could be different. Put a bulb in the socket and see if it works.

I took the console gauge top off and the low fuel sending module has a socket for a BULB/FUSE to push into it but it won't go into the mounting hole with a bulb in it and the gauge pod has never been messed with it never has had a bulb in it , light worked 10 year's ago when I got the car and stopped working about ? maybe 6 or 7 year's ago , I have decided that it is not ever gonna be worth $60 plus buck's of MY money for the light to work so if nobody ever come's up with a fix for my original now non working module that I can do out here in the yard for free the light will never work again ,, I'd give maybe $10 to $15 buck's for a working new module but $60 just ain't realistic for something that you don't need anyway ,,
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2010, 01:45:29 PM »

After reading this thread, is my understanding correct that the low fuel warning module is not supposed to have a fues or bulb in it because it's the fuel light on the dash that comes on? If it does need a fues/bulb, I haven't seen any at the various Camaro part houses to purchase???
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2010, 02:10:27 PM »

That's correct. No bulb in the module.

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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2010, 02:23:53 PM »

Great, thanks Ed!
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2010, 03:00:38 AM »

I'm currently wiring my dash, so I thought I would post the information I have about the repro low fuel warning module that I have..
These are the supplied instructions and it shows that the install is really easy.

In my console, I have 4 Autometer gauges, one being an isolated fuel pressure gauge and I use a NO (normally open) grounded pressure switch to illuminate the "FUEL" lamp when fuel pressure drops below ~3.5psi.
I have fitted a 6X8K factory tach so I have to have the fuel level gauge in the center of the instrument carrier with the module sharing the low fuel lamp. I know I don't really need the low fuel warning lamp with the gauge right in front of me, but that the Hell. This is fun!  Grin

I also fitted the module with a 4 terminal connector (Packard 56 Series of course!) so it's a serviceable item if it ever fails to work.


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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2010, 03:46:03 AM »

Buy the way.. PCS sell the correct wedge globe terminals for your dash lamp.



http://www.pcsconnectors.com/12020334.aspx
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2010, 02:09:57 PM »

... and I use a NO (normally open) grounded pressure switch

Sorry, NC Normally Closed.
I can't edit my previous post.?
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2010, 04:37:39 PM »

Look at RPO code U17 if you install the Gauge package. Check out the AIM under UPC U17 A1, gives a lot of detail on the gauge wiring harness.
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 ???I could not find a RPO code in 67 for a low fuel warning light. Was this option available in 67?  If so, where would it appear? On the dash or in the gauge package? Was it just a warning light or did it say Low Fuel? Reason I ask, I am in the process of installing a new underdash harness in my 67 Camaro. I have the gauge package on the floor console and it is a automatic. There is a connection I can't find where its goes from the harness. I have all the dash hooked up, the glove box light, ash tray light , cigarette lighter etc etc. Or is this there in case some one has it and instead of having to buy a special harness it is included in the harness.? I bought the harness through Rick's First Gen. Pretty simple to install and really cleans up the underdash.

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2010, 06:22:06 AM »

Buy the way.. PCS sell the correct wedge globe terminals for your dash lamp.



http://www.pcsconnectors.com/12020334.aspx

Another correcttion.. Sorry these are not the correct terminals. I was just supplied a quantity and they are different.
So far, I think Molex # 0354779002 might me right.. Google that for details.
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