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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2007, 05:48:58 PM »

18% on 200 million dollars.
Should be able to afford some ethics, I would imagine.
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« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2007, 07:13:45 PM »

THE AUTOMATICS, EXCEPT CALIFORNIA CARS DID NOT HAVE A.I.R. HOLES.

That's what I have always understood as well.
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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2007, 12:32:10 AM »

I just found this post.
I had a recent experience with a Palm Beach FL 66 vette that a customer bought to me for a "check out".
He was not a car guy and wanted a 66 vette bb 4 spd badly,had the cash and bought one,but knew the car was not running right
when he picked it up at the erminal in Orlando.
He bid on a car which was photo catalogued and in printed material as a numbers matching recreation 66 427 Vette..
It was far from numbers matching.Cross drilled rotors,demon carb,msd,lakewood bellhsg,china wire wheels,oil dripping from side pipes ect-you get the picture.
Long story short Gary Bennet contacted me,I sent photos to him and car was "returned". Fed x transport picked up and was now
sent to Scottsdale AZ for resale ? Maybe one of those personal B-J cars.Don't know.
The owner paid $140 k for this modified car !!!
Sounded like shill bidding to me too.
Its a shame this auction venue has gone bad as it will effect all of us as the owners and collectors of all cars from the past. Cry
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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2007, 02:08:35 AM »

Interesting blog from someone who is in the know.

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Name: Rick Carey

Auctions Editor of Car Collector and Victory Lane magazines. Reporting on the collector car auction market since 1991. Editor of Car Collector's Online Market Journal www.ccomj.com. For more see www.rickcarey.com.


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Friday, February 02, 2007

The Barrett-Jackson Rumor Mill, Again

It’s no wonder Craig Jackson sometimes acts paranoid. How many times does Barrett-Jackson have to deal with uninformed rumors?

We’re still putting down the “the Futurliner didn’t sell for $4 million” stories, a year after the $3,680,000 (that’s the $4 million hammer bid less the 8% seller’s commission) wire transfer landed in Montreal.

This week it was “did you hear about the class action against B-J? It’s all over the Internet.”

Well, no I hadn’t, so I went looking.

I found someone named Sam Barer’s posting on his blog. A wide-ranging rant, it started off by accusing B-J of fraud (“some hobbyists are claiming a worst [sic]: fraud”), which must have gotten Mr. Jackson’s attention. Then there it was, Barer says someone “has filed papers with the court” and “this is already being discussed as translating into class-action status.”

Sam claims to be “a collector car journalist” who has “been watching the Barrett-Jackson auction for years.”

From reading his rambling posting it didn’t even appear that he was at B-J, much less on the block where he might have become aware of what goes on there so to find out I called the phone number for his company’s “Business Office.”

I reached Sam at home.

Not only wasn’t Sam at Barrett-Jackson this year, he’s never been to Barrett-Jackson at all. He has been “watching the Barrett-Jackson auction” though. On SPEED Channel. He watched the whole thing, he said – except for the parts he missed. And he “knows people” who’ve bought and sold cars at Barrett-Jackson.

When pressed, Sam admitted that he didn’t know if a suit had been filed. He further allowed that the “class action” was complete conjecture.

This is pathetic. Barrett-Jackson (and Craig Jackson and even Keith Martin who came in for his share of Barer-bashing) has been taking flack from someone who hasn’t any firsthand knowledge of what went on at Barrett-Jackson in 2007 (or any other year). He’s just dishing out recirculated rumors, then piling surmise and conjecture on top of them.

Barrett-Jackson has now issued a statement dealing with Mr. Barer’s rumors and surmise. The statement is clear, concise and factual, unlike the rambling rant that prompted it.

In the case of the lawsuit/class action rumor, there is no “there” there.

Craig Jackson isn’t the one who is paranoid.
Rick Carey
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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2007, 05:34:59 PM »

Nice find...but I don't buy it for a second that Barrett-Jackson is squeeky clean...I doubt most of would.
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« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2007, 05:51:32 PM »

Just another guy's oppinion.
This is old news. I would rather hear more about Anna Nicole Smith.
The sides have been drawn - it is ALL just conjecture.

Either you believe it happens or you don't.
Doesn't change what happened, or what is going to happen.
The auction is likely under official investigation, let the authorities sort it out.

BJ's response was to just deny everything. (as would be expected)
Their letter was well written, because a TEAM of high paid lawyers,
worked on it for 2 days. This stuff is just boring.  Roll Eyes

Most of the stuff that was written - happens at EVERY auction.
Can't believe BJ's is the only one it doen't?
Only time will tell.
I still believe there is some truth in there somewhere, trying to get out.

Some of the writers original sources had to be protected,
which made him have to back down and forget it. (And all the threats by the lawyers.)

One guy wrote about it.... but there was not really anything that I had not heard over and over again
from many people year after year, after year..

I have seen it myself, I will see it again. Nothing new to me.
I certainly don't know for sure, and as said before - even harder to prove.
but you kind get a feel when you are standing there. - OR NOT. Huh

Maybe it is true, maybe not.
But, if this all WAS happening...
You will definitely see changes with all the publicity now.
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« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2007, 10:30:32 AM »

Well, somewhere between "Buyer beware" and "Presumption of Innocence" is the truth...
Again, bad publicity and over-pricing of misrepresented cars is not good for the hobby, whether at a famous auction or in somebody's backyard.
In the end, makes me glad we have CRG --a good place to discuss and learn!
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2007, 05:02:03 PM »

For all of you who cannot afford the real thing at the B-J auction... not to worry. They have graciously offered up toy versions of "6 awesome rides that recently sold on the auction block". Only 24.95!

Better hurry, since they are a limited production of only 3,500 units.

I wonder if it is in their business plan to place these soon-to-be collectibles up for auction in 2008 Scottsdale  Wink

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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2007, 05:10:36 PM »

Pretty cool idea actually -- buy your car there - then get a replica of the sale.

Only problem... It's a $2.49 Johnny Lightnig car.
But just like the auction, with the Barrett Jackson packaging it now sells for $24.99  Shocked
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« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2007, 07:56:21 PM »

They were selling a 1:64 Greenlight 2006 Concept Camaro/70 Camaro set at BJ this year for $20.00....   or it was free if you spent $200.00 on other merchandise.  Roll Eyes

I passed.
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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2007, 08:38:58 AM »


Happy Saint Patrick's day to all!

Here's the latest update on this saga........it makes for interesting reading.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0317barrett0317.html

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds now that the person B/J is taking action against actually is a Judge...
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2007, 05:24:32 PM »

It certainly WILL be interesting what happens here. I would think many of the claims of fraudulance will be brought out in court.  Jerry, or anyone else that was there, can you explain why there were several cars on Sat. PM that the price was lowered AFTER being knocked off and the car driven away? It happened at least 4 times with no explaination. My theory is the owner got stuck as high bidder and they went to the backbidder.  Any ideas?
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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2007, 10:34:16 PM »

My prediction:
This lawsuit will never reach a courtroom.
It will be settled with a gag order.
The unhappy party will be paid off.

But really BJ acomplishes it's goal of quashing any talk like this in the future.
It is a legal scare tactic, it will work.

In the end everyone loses.
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