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1969 early L.A. cars
« on: July 06, 2017, 07:04:46 PM »
So I have been meaning to start this thread for a little while now. I know there are many differences for the early production cars vs. late. I also wanted to see if there are many differences between early L.A. cars vs. Norwood.

One thing I noticed recently is my 10B L.A. car which has a 711 interior code, (black standard), and has metal seat belt buckles, where my 08C (late 69) norwood car, with the same interior code has plastic. Also both cars have the Z23 option.



 
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 07:25:40 PM »
not sure, but I thought there was an option A39?  those metal seat belt buckles were an option upgrade.
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 07:26:22 PM »
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One thing I noticed recently is my 10B L.A. car which has a 711 interior code, (black standard), and has metal seat belt buckles, where my 08C (late 69) norwood car, with the same interior code has plastic. Also both cars have the Z23 option.

Z23 has nothing to do with the seat belts. EVERY car came with the standard (plastic buckle) belts unless RPO A39, AK1 or ZK3 was ordered. (More info HERE)

As for differences between early, mid and late, and differences between L.A. and Norwood, there are literally dozens and dozens!. Most small and minor, but a few major.

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 07:37:52 PM »
OK, was A39, a stand alone option, or was it used in conjunction with any other options? Also is the dates on the seat belts all line up with the car, is there any other way to check that these were original to this car?
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 08:04:39 PM »
Deluxe belts weren't required with any other option, so yes, they were stand alone. If your belts are original, the dates should be close to the cars build.

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 08:33:20 PM »
My deluxe belts on my 12B LA built car are dated 48 (week).
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 10:35:14 PM »
Rick do you have deluxe interior? or was yours a stand alone option?
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 10:49:35 PM »
It has the deluxe interior.
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 11:38:02 PM »
Austin it doesn't matter if the car had deluxe or standard interior..  The seat belts was a separate option.  You could get deluxe interior with standard belts.  Ricks just happen to have been optioned with deluxe interior and deluxe seat belts..

That's what Ed means by stand alone..
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2017, 12:00:01 AM »
I thought it was stand alone, and also included with the deluxe interior, like the wood steering wheel, but now I understand.
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2017, 03:47:02 AM »
Ed linked above to my article that explains it.
http://www.camaros.org/seatbelt.shtml
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 04:00:08 AM »
thanks for the link. it seems like production was pretty low for the deluxe seat belts. Is there any breakdown by color for the deluxe belts for each year?
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 01:58:08 PM »
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Is there any breakdown by color for the deluxe belts for each year?

Not unless Paul (fsc66) has something in the "good book"!

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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 02:48:51 PM »
Interesting. Now I've got my marketing stick if I ever sell my Z. "Equipped with rare ZK3 deluxe seat belt option".  ;D
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Re: 1969 early L.A. cars
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 03:41:37 PM »
Ok in sticking with this L.A. theme and early cars in general. I noticed on my 10B (early) white car that the radiator hoses which I thought were replacements have codes stamped into the rubber (no white ink) that correlate to the original GM white stamped (not pressed into the rubber) hoses. ( which I have a set of GM originals on my late 69 car, that are identical to Skips orange Z).

So for the early 69 car, I have the different numbers stamped in them and then a  AU code on one, and then a AG code on the other. Has anyone else seen hoses like these?
 Could this have been original but through a different supplier that was used earlier in the model year, or just at the L.A. plant?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV