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67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« on: June 19, 2017, 01:00:44 PM »
Can anyone give me the two measurements of the pins that the handles mount to (std and deluxe)?  Or better yet, pictures of them.  I need to make sure I have the right ones for a 67 Deluxe interior.  Thanks.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 01:38:39 PM »
I don't believe there is a difference in 67.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 05:06:25 PM »
The catalogs have separate listings for standard and deluxe for 67.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 10:30:23 PM »
67 deluxe window crank stems are taller because the door panel is thicker than standard. From just the base of the stem (not including the stem housing base) to its top i1.125. Door handle stems are shorter because the handle cup is close to the door shell like a standard panel. I have two deluxe cars here.

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2017, 04:23:58 PM »
The only difference I can see is on the door release shaft. The Deluxe are drilled and tapped for a handle retainer screw instead of the horse shoe clip.
The Late (last day 67 production) Camaro I Had, the factory installed Deluxe panels with standard door parts. They fit fine.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2017, 10:09:56 PM »
I have 2 '67 deluxe and one '67 standard here. Deluxe window regulator shafts are 1.125 and the standard shaft is .875. Also have 2 sets of '68 standard window regulators-.875. Shorter shafts will work, but the handles will be tighter to the door panels. Both 67's were never disassembled until I put my paws on them. One came from a boneyard with 35K original miles on it.

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 03:14:01 PM »
Scott are the panels 1/4 of an inch thicker or are the shafts longer for the different design lever?
I'm not arguing with you since you have the comparisons in your hands just trying to figure this out.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 06:55:46 PM »
Thanks Sauron327 but I'm referring to the door lock.  Installed it extends out 1/2 inch.  Not sure if that's std or dlx.  I have deluxe door panels.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 08:55:40 PM »
 I measured my 67, standard interior, door release handle stud and it stands out at 5/8" using your method of measuring.
Compared to your picture mine looks to have a higher collar.
It also has no center tap for a screw (your looks like is has it in the picture).

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 09:32:29 PM »
Thanks Mike S.  Not at all what I expected.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 02:28:03 AM »
My measurements of the parts were taken after the components were removed from the door; true part dimensions. Mike's measurements were taken which includes the door shell. I'll try to take photos and post them. Window regulator and door release shafts are not the same length in 1967 deluxe. It is obvious when you look at the door panel.

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2017, 05:06:31 AM »
The only difference I can see is on the door release shaft. The Deluxe are drilled and tapped for a handle retainer screw instead of the horse shoe clip.

Is this just for 67 or 68 too?  My 68 std mechanism and handle do not have a provision for a screw to hold it on.
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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2017, 12:54:19 PM »
Only 67 door release handles are retained with screws.

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2017, 03:09:31 PM »
I should have wrote only 67 deluxe door release handles are retained with screws.

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Re: 67 Std vs. Dlx door lock mechanism
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2017, 05:26:51 PM »
Thanks Scott.  I panicked for a second.  There are all these little details to try and get right and some of them you don't find until you take things off.
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