Author Topic: Caveat Emptor...repro tag (Read 8234 times)

william · « **on:** April 05, 2017, 11:39:53 PM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-/282422985864?hash=item41c1b8c488:g:wggAAOSwB-1Y5WPo&vxp=mtr

non-OE engine

N671401

BillOhio · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2017, 12:53:29 AM »

A lot of money for a car that's not very nice underneath. Looks like transmission is leaking, paints coming off floor and other things. Geez

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2017, 03:08:08 AM »

They say 69 correctly dated block, (0811 DZ I assume), guess they got lucky finding one right before the car was built.(8/15)
Other than them saying it is correctly dated, what else tipped you off William?
I am with you on the fake tag, and the way the rest of the car was put together. (wrong drivers side door)

x66 714 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2017, 11:39:08 AM »

Wrong trunk lid also....Joe

abiddle · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2017, 12:19:53 PM »

Ok I think I finally figured out the fake tags, I can find the differences now. What's wrong with the door and the trunk? I'm trying to learn the larger picture pieces and not just the small stuff.

Thanks - Andy

cook_dw · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2017, 12:37:25 PM »

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12390.0;all

Also if you still have your original lid please add the info to that thread so I can add it to the spreadsheet. Thanks.

jdv69z · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2017, 01:27:50 PM »

HaHa!! I usually cannot spot these fake tags, but for once, I get it.

william · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2017, 01:41:57 PM »

Quote from: BULLITT65 on April 06, 2017, 03:08:08 AM

They say 69 correctly dated block, (0811 DZ I assume), guess they got lucky finding one right before the car was built.(8/15)
Other than them saying it is correctly dated, what else tipped you off William?
I am with you on the fake tag, and the way the rest of the car was put together. (wrong drivers side door)

I had info on it back to 2002; had an April engine at that time.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2017, 02:12:43 PM »

Gotcha, thanks

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2017, 03:05:29 PM »

124379N671401

Paul

Petes L48 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2017, 09:40:31 PM »

Is that a 67 style oil canister/element painted white that I'm seeing? Must be a really early 69 block.

bertfam · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2017, 09:45:45 PM »

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Is that a 67 style oil canister/element painted white that I'm seeing?

No, it's a K&N oil filter. Their filters are designed so you can use a socket to unscrew them.

Ed

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2017, 06:48:55 AM »

Andy, the drivers door is incorrect because it does to have the ribs on the end of the door for the blue VIN sticker that they started using for 69 Camaros delivered after August of 69. I think the ribs on the door started in July, but the earliest blue stickers were on 08E cars.
( I am still waiting to see any earlier examples....)

cook_dw · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2017, 03:44:55 PM »

Ok... After a little digging I know this car.. It has actually been at my parents house back over 20 years ago.. FYI he (my father) did not do anything to the car. It was a guy that was trying to resolve a vibration problem and heard about my father being a Camaro guy. Btw that was not the current owner. It was the previous owner before current. Current owner is known also.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2017, 05:56:53 PM »

So what did this car start out as?what color? I am guessing not a Z?

cook_dw · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2017, 06:33:39 PM »

Glacier and as far back as anyone remembers its always been claimed to have been a Z. I cant remember a year ago much less 20 plus years ago... Previous owner replaced the blk deluxe with the current houndstooth before current owner purchased the car. It more than likely had that tag on it previous to any of us (Mid TN clan) knew of the car. Knowledge of the car goes back roughly 30 yrs. For the record there was another 69 Z that was in Lebanon but it was a Dusk Blue and that owner at that time has now passed.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2017, 01:02:30 AM »

SO if it was a Z, why the fake tag? any ideas?

Daytona Yellow 69 Z/28 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2017, 01:28:24 AM »

No telling... it's only 400 & change units before my 08C Z

abiddle · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2017, 08:26:05 AM »

Quote from: BULLITT65 on April 07, 2017, 06:48:55 AM

Andy, the drivers door is incorrect because it does to have the ribs on the end of the door for the blue VIN sticker that they started using for 69 Camaros delivered after August of 69. I think the ribs on the door started in July, but the earliest blue stickers were on 08E cars.
( I am still waiting to see any earlier examples....)

Well I learn something every day. I've known my drivers door wasn't original by the inside paint and its the only glass dated too late. Now I know what the ribs are for. I wish I had known oh about a few months ago before paint. Bummer, but glad I know. Thanks for the info!

vtfb68 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2017, 03:17:23 PM »

Darrell,
In regards to reply #15, does this mean that the repo tag has been on this car for over thirty years?
VT

cook_dw · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2017, 08:35:34 PM »

I can not confirm that. All I meant was the car has been known for roughly 30 years and was always said and appeared as a Z. Although that doesn't mean much. Regardless the trim tag is a huge red flag regardless what it was originally.

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