Author Topic: Dave's X77 Z28  (Read 9870 times)

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2017, 12:42:55 AM »
Dave, that looks like a fun car!
I like playing with my big block car. ;-)
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2017, 03:03:12 AM »
Dave, that looks like a fun car!
I like playing with my big block car. ;-)

Do you like lugging it on and off your extra heavy duty engine stand?  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

KurtS

  • CRG Coordinator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5884
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2017, 04:30:59 AM »
I always figured Z28s were always D80. I'm sure that's not the case though.
Lots of Z's did not have D80. Mine didn't. But they all do now!
Kurt S
CRG

x66 714

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1787
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2017, 11:11:04 AM »
It seems that just about every Camaro you see at a car show today has ducted hood & spoilers...Joe
See America's First, Chevrolet

1968 Z/28 Corvette Bronze. Black Hounds Tooth. 02E Los Angeles born 3/13/1968 pnt OO. Purchased March 1976
1969 SS396 Yellow/Yellow 08E Norwood born 8/28/1969 pnt 76E. Purchased April 1981

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2017, 04:03:30 PM »
Some of that is guys adding it to their Camaro (all first gen), but specifically with the Z, there is a wide spread belief that all Z cars came with spoilers and the cowl hood. I bet if you asked people and owners at a all around car show, most people wouldn't even know that the cowl hood was only an option on the 69. Just like people think all Z cars came with the console gauges.
You could have a very original low option Z, next to a highly optioned clone, and most people would flock to the clone, and not be aware that it was a creation, but discount the original and think it is just wearing the emblems, because it doesn't have the eye catching options.( just my 2 cents, from what I have observed)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2017, 04:31:45 PM »
It seems that just about every Camaro you see at a car show today has ducted hood & spoilers...Joe
Some of that is guys adding it to their Camaro (all first gen), but specifically with the Z, there is a wide spread belief that all Z cars came with spoilers and the cowl hood. I bet if you asked people and owners at a all around car show, most people wouldn't even know that the cowl hood was only an option on the 69. Just like people think all Z cars came with the console gauges.
You could have a very original low option Z, next to a highly optioned clone, and most people would flock to the clone, and not be aware that it was a creation, but discount the original and think it is just wearing the emblems, because it doesn't have the eye catching options.( just my 2 cents, from what I have observed)
Not that they couldn't have been added in the 70s or early 80s before we got it, but I have no reason to believe that's the case. The rear end, transmission and everything else, but the block is original to the car. Original heads etc. It's far from a "survivor", but a majority of it is original.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2017, 05:55:44 PM »
Some of that is guys adding it to their Camaro (all first gen), but specifically with the Z, there is a wide spread belief that all Z cars came with spoilers and the cowl hood. I bet if you asked people and owners at a all around car show, most people wouldn't even know that the cowl hood was only an option on the 69. Just like people think all Z cars came with the console gauges.
You could have a very original low option Z, next to a highly optioned clone, and most people would flock to the clone, and not be aware that it was a creation, but discount the original and think it is just wearing the emblems, because it doesn't have the eye catching options.( just my 2 cents, from what I have observed)

Start the original one up.. and let it idle a bit.. :)   that should help!~   
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2017, 06:05:38 PM »
Well you know what I mean. As we all know there are no base model first gen Camaros, out there now. Seems every Camaro is a SS, Z/28, or badged as something it originally wasn't.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2017, 06:09:19 PM »
Well you know what I mean. As we all know there are no base model first gen Camaros, out there now. Seems every Camaro is a SS, Z/28, or badged as something it originally wasn't.
That's why I'm not a big fan of clones using the Z28, SS, Yenko badges etc. Build a nice car that looks exactly like what you'd like to have, but why badge it as something it isn't? Enjoy it for what it is. JMO...
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2017, 06:20:11 PM »
Well I understand part of it now a days. With the prices of some of these cars getting ridiculous, I can see if a guy on a budget wanted a Z, SS, Yenko, pace car etc.
and he had a plain jane, I can see swapping a motor and switching some emblems, or what ever. (Some of these guys are just honest low budget guys)
I think there has been so much of this though, it has muddied the water, and most people don't know real vs re-creation.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2017, 06:25:16 PM »
Well I understand part of it now a days. With the prices of some of these cars getting ridiculous, I can see if a guy on a budget wanted a Z, SS, Yenko, pace car etc.
and he had a plain jane, I can see swapping a motor and switching some emblems, or what ever. (Some of these guys are just honest low budget guys)
I think there has been so much of this though, it has muddied the water, and most people don't know real vs re-creation.
That side of it I completely understand. If I didn't get lucky enough to get the ones I have, I would build a kick ass Camaro, maybe a clone, but I wouldn't badge it.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

BillOhio

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1179
    • View Profile
    • photobucket
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2017, 06:37:38 PM »
I have a dart block 383 that I keep looking for a clean car to put it in. If I found a base car I would leave without emblems or stripes. Probably swap out the transmission and axle but the rest would stay a sleeper!!
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
1968 RS 327 4 speed
1970 Z28 M22 4:10 bought from original owner
1961 Chrysler 300G convertible

Vince

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 292
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2017, 07:35:37 PM »
I agree with you guys.  If I were to build a clone, or whatever you wanted to call it, I would just do the mechanical stuff and leave the stripes, badging, etc. off it, would probably put on a cowl hood though but only if it was a '69.  My '69 Z came originally from the factory with no spoilers and no cowl hood, but some previous owner added these to it. 

westonz28

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 66
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2017, 05:50:37 PM »
Just my 2 cents. Of all the Camaro's I own, none of them has a cowl hood. The 67 is all original with one repaint with new seat covers and carpet. The 68 SS BB does have the rear spoiler because the holes were all ready there. I built the other 68 coupe to look like a Z28 because I did not think I would ever own one and the Seafrost green looks so much better with white rally stripes. Yes I did put the rear spoiler on.  The 68 Z28 that I got last year will be built as close to original as I can. No console no spoiler so it will be one of those that people walk by looking at the "Blinged" out clones.
67 RS L30/M20 numbers, 68 BB 396 12 bolt posi
68 Z28 project, 68 numbers 327/210 4 speed
69 LM1 turbo 350 12 bolt numbers,70 L65 350
68 Chevelle L30 3 on the tree, 68 El Camino BB

jdv69z

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1275
  • 69 RS Z/28 52E
    • View Profile
Re: Dave's X77 Z28
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2017, 07:58:15 PM »
My cowl hood was added 35 years ago, and I'm not taking if off!. I like it too much. The original flat hood with the original paint is in the garage. Car always had spoilers. Console, but no gauges. And standard black steering wheel with the RS center emblem. I know that's "rare" today!  :D
Jimmy V.