Camaro Research Group Discussion > Originality
Identifying 3961398 Oil Pan, 1969 302 Production line?
Bryan302:
In doing a little research on 302 oil pans, I came across the part # 3961398 in the Feb. 1969 P&A catalog. This is on pg. 1-38 in revision dated 2-15-69. This oil pan was listed for 1967-69 302 engines.
It is also known that 67-69 302's had their own distinct oil pan, according to Jerry M. and other facts.
I also found where the progression was believed to be as follows, 1968 302 3927134; 1969 302 3961398; 1969 302 3974251; and into replacements 360009, 465220, 360450.
The controversy I saw and had questions about were the listing in the P&A catalog for 3961398, dated February of 1969 and the post that Steve (Z28Z11) made in the thread below with his NOS pan 3974251, dated 2-14-69
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10201.msg76264#msg76264
Identifing 68 Z28 oil pan, post #5.
With all this said, my question is:
Is this 3961398 pan the original Assembly line 1969 302 oil pan?
Was 3961398 short lived and quickly replaced by 3974251?
Thanks,
Bryan
cook_dw:
110 views and no one has any info or comments?? Geezzzz...
BSMIT59:
Well Cook, these are rare as HEN'S teeth and nobody wants to give up any info that they might have an extra one cause guys like me that ARE LOOKING FOR ONE, will probably bug them from here to never more to try and get it !!! Just kidding, but if there is one laying around out there..........PM me please.
69Z28-RS:
... and... to my knowledge, oil pans do not have pns on them, so identifying one by a PN requires more knowledge than just looking at one pan...? My original (Sept '69) 302 oil pan is off my car and I could photograph it or relate to an ID component if it helped... otherwise, I have insufficient knowledge to assist in the query...
I suspect very few people on CRG actually have enough information to help Bryan in his research, and it seems as if he has access to a '69 dated Accessory and Parts Manual??
Bryan302:
When I saw that the P&A listed pn #3961398 as the 302 pan in the Feb. '69 time frame, I remembered Steve's NOS example of 3974251 being dated Feb. 1969 also. This could be a time of change between the two, or they used both at the same time, etc. I was hoping someone would have an NOS example of 3961398 or other parts catalogs such as Mitchell Manuals, etc. to have another listing of this pan. GM didn't just stick this PN# in the manual, there has got to be something to this pan's existence. It might just be the early to mid production line pan!! ?? It might not! Let's see what can be found?
Bryan
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