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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2018, 02:05:36 PM »
There are dozens of changes throughout the model year on 69 alone.   I still don't think there is sufficient data on a lot of it.  May never be as good examples dry up.  I'm sure they do the best they can with what they have to work with.

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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2018, 03:25:39 PM »
The pics of the feature car, (Solo) is 1D A.I.R. and has the clamp.
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« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2018, 04:26:58 PM »
FYI, solo car is 01D (early January). I am going say that the heater hose bracket was likely phased out by may of 69 on A.I.R. Cars,  may be earlier,  if I can find some more examples from prior months.

Larry good point.

Gary good suggestions. Steves show would be a great one. As my kids get older it may be an option  :)
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2018, 06:36:46 PM »
I have more pics of survivor 69 Z's that I can't find at the moment, and the one I did find I can't post.  But it's one of Larry Christensen's cars.  Built in Norwood in April and has the clamp.    That's the latest date I've found so far in my collection of survivors.

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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2018, 01:06:45 AM »
HERE IS LARRY's 04C JL8 survivor that has the clip  - This car runs out so nice, I drove it a couple of years ago when I was in Colorado. 3.73 and M20.




MAY NORWOOD


MAY 26k Norwood Survivor White white RS SS 350 conv


August Norwood


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April 69 Norwood


March Norwood


September 1968 Van Nuys


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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2018, 02:34:34 PM »
Yep that's Larry's, thanks James.  I see the car off and on when he brings it up to the cruise.

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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2018, 03:20:39 PM »
Great pics, thanks James.
I knew you had been around many original cars. Other than the AC car which shows to have it in the AIM, seems most of the cars you have come across did not.
On that september of 68 car was there any evidence of it ever having the bracket?
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2018, 01:47:48 AM »
I have been inspecting and messing with L78's and L72's for the last few years(they have the hose bracket) and had to think back...
So it took me a minute to think about Z's... my 10D Norwood Lemans blue car (parked in 1973) did not have one and there were no threads cut into the original alternator bracket.





As another data point. Mark Bulaw has recently - (within 6 months) acquired an early (Oct -Nov) LA SS/RS 350 survivor that has the hose bracket on the alternator.
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2018, 02:02:56 AM »
Thanks James, good stuff. Interesting how none of the pictures have the lower hose crossing over the upper hose like this picture from AIM.

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2018, 02:36:27 AM »
That's interesting James, because my 12D Norwood has the bracket, and Larry's 4C Norwood has the bracket.  Seems we have this lapse or inconsistency.   Then there is the question of how many were a grey phosphate color and how many were black, because the books list both correct.   We can break this down to the point of driving people nuts  ;D

Another question James,   since yours doesn't have the heater hose bracket, is the negative batter cable clip up there in that hole?  Because your battery cable is up pretty high.

On mine, I guess since the hose bracket is there,  the battery cable clip is toward the outside closer to the alternator pulley.  Most of the pics I'm seeing the battery cable clip is outside like mine, even the ones without the heater hose bracket.

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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2018, 03:51:38 AM »
I don't think there was a clip on there at that point in time...
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2018, 12:04:25 PM »
My late 09C car did not have the hose bracket on the alternator bracket when I purchased it in April 1976; the hole showed no signs of having ever had a screw in it (so that confused me, as I thought the bracket/clip had been previously removed and I was missing it.   Instead it had a black 'tie' on it.
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2018, 11:36:37 PM »
Thanks James, good stuff. Interesting how none of the pictures have the lower hose crossing over the upper hose like this picture from AIM.
RPM... The Assembly Manual image in your post illustrates 67-68.
69 is a different set up, the 3/4" hose nipple is on the top of the waterpump, not the passenger side like 67-68
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Re: Heater hoses
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2018, 01:34:44 AM »
Not sure what to say, I took the picture from the 69 manual. Very odd.