Author Topic: 427/425  (Read 15927 times)

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
427/425
« on: December 05, 2016, 07:53:10 PM »
Can anyone share any info they may have on the 427/425 hp engine for 1969? The stamp on the block
reads T0522LS 97YO

william

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3138
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 08:11:37 PM »
According to Chevrolet by the numbers LS is an L72/TH400 for a passenger car. T0522 indicates it was assembled at the Tonawanda plant May 22, 1969.

The remainder of the characters are likely part of the partial VIN for the car it was originally installed in.
Learning more and more about less and less...

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 08:19:14 PM »
Thanks, but would this thing have any significant value to anyone? It is still in the car that was wrecked sometime in late 1970 to early 71 it has only 64,000 miles which is a lot in just a short life span.

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 08:21:01 PM »
Oh, i know this is a camaro site but just thought someone here may know a little about this engine

william

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3138
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 08:26:10 PM »
If the car is rebuildable that's where it would have the most value. If not, the engine may have value to someone looking for an engine for a documented '69 L72 B body. 

But, expect a lot of questions concerning the condition of the engine. 46 years is a long time for an engine to sit.
Learning more and more about less and less...

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4031
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 11:58:17 PM »
It has value. You have any pics?
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2016, 01:49:26 PM »
yes but not sure if i can remember how to post them, i will try.

Kelley W King

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1415
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 02:12:34 PM »
What kind of car is it? Impala?
69 Z28 RS Scuncio Hi Performance
69 SS L78
67 SS Chevelle
64 Corvette
66 GTO Tiger Gold
77 Trans Am Special Edition

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2016, 03:27:52 PM »
Yes it is an Impala

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2016, 03:29:49 PM »
here is a couple more pics
« Last Edit: December 07, 2016, 05:12:03 AM by KurtS »

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2016, 03:30:59 PM »
sorry about the duplicate pic

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2016, 03:48:03 PM »
That car *might* be worth restoring ..  if it's in decent condition???  An original 427/425 should add some $value...   69 Impala 2 dr HT?   427/425 w/ Turbo 400
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2016, 04:14:02 PM »
Its a four door, i just can't figure why it has that engine.

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2016, 04:21:37 PM »
I wonder if it might have been ordered as a 'Law Enforcement Vehicle'...????  Have you noticed anything unusual that might support that supposition?  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

x77-69z28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2016, 04:41:30 PM »
Does the partial vin on the block match the car?
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

x77-69z28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2016, 04:42:31 PM »
Would be a nice family car!
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2016, 04:52:40 PM »
yes

tar6569

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 59
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2016, 05:12:16 PM »
PM sent, I run the website Impalas.org and do lots of research on these cars.  Would be a great research tool
Warren

1964-1970 fullsize Chevrolet research

tar6569

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 59
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2016, 05:19:02 PM »
And the partial vin decodes to a 69 fullsize Chevy from the Wilmington plant
Warren

1964-1970 fullsize Chevrolet research

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2016, 05:49:30 PM »
additional pics

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2016, 05:51:45 PM »
one more

68camaroz28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2233
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2016, 07:21:56 PM »
To costly to restore vs value but agree that would make for a fun ride and conversation piece when at cruise in and old up! I like it! Maybe a type of rat rod, yea!
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

ds1

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 144
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 12:37:32 AM »
Why is the intake painted?

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 03:40:58 AM »
Why is the intake painted?

Cast iron intake....apparently...
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

BillOhio

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1179
    • View Profile
    • photobucket
Re: 427/425
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2016, 03:59:11 AM »
Looks like the orange flaked off and aluminum on that one runner?
1969 Z28, Burgandy, numbers matching, 12,900 miles
1968 RS 327 4 speed
1970 Z28 M22 4:10 bought from original owner
1961 Chrysler 300G convertible

z28z11

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1853
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2016, 04:49:49 AM »
I believe you're right - paint flaking off of aluminum.

I remember my uncle, a detective with Metro Police, bringing his 427 '69 by the house to show it off in '69. Wish I had taken pictures of it at the time -

A few days afterward, a friend of my sister brought his next car by the house - a '68 SS427 Impala convertible, triple black car (my parents had a '68 327 Impala Custom Coupe at the time). I can still remember that one in my "Cars I Wish I Could Have Had" list.
Those were the days -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

KurtS

  • CRG Coordinator
  • *****
  • Posts: 5900
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2016, 05:15:12 AM »
I think it still has value and is worth restoring.
Notice it's a 2-tone car - champagne and burnished brown.
Kurt S
CRG

Sauron327

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1366
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2016, 12:54:10 PM »
That's worth yanking the frame, replacing the bent sheetmetal and running it as is, provided the motor is good. Easy job. Where are you going to find a 4 door 427/425? You don't have to do a rotisserie resto for the car to have value. We've started cars that have sat outside untouched for thirty years.

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4031
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2016, 01:18:44 PM »
Any hints that it was a law enforcement car? Could also have been a sheriffs personal car, based on the color(s). 

Engine may be in questionable condition. Sitting with the hood down and engine compartment enclosed would help preserve things a lot better - compared to how it has been sitting since the accident. It may be perfectly fine, but don't bank on it.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

crownroyal58

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2016, 05:18:45 PM »
Thanks for all the input and info about this car, i could share more about it but one of the members here went out of his way to locate it in an attempt to purchase even though i had interest in it. I learned from this that i should  not  be so revealing with the info about future finds. In the event that i wind up with it i plan to do a simple restoring just because i think it would be cool to have.

Z28Project

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 220
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2016, 05:40:34 PM »
Get it bought and then share more pics.  I think it's neat!  I'm not real knowledgeable on them but I've never seen a 4-door L72.
John

69 Z/28 NOR 12B X33 H.O. 'Ex-Racer'

Sauron327

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1366
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2016, 06:27:25 PM »
Thanks for all the input and info about this car, i could share more about it but one of the members here went out of his way to locate it in an attempt to purchase even though i had interest in it. I learned from this that i should  not  be so revealing with the info about future finds. In the event that i wind up with it i plan to do a simple restoring just because i think it would be cool to have.
Not surprising. There are a lot of snakes in this hobby who would throw your mother under bus while you watched so they could acquire a car or part. They are not in this as hobby, it's just a business to them.
Go get the car.

JKZ27

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 559
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2016, 07:00:11 PM »
Thanks for all the input and info about this car, i could share more about it but one of the members here went out of his way to locate it in an attempt to purchase even though i had interest in it. I learned from this that i should  not  be so revealing with the info about future finds. In the event that i wind up with it i plan to do a simple restoring just because i think it would be cool to have.

That's disappointing and, sadly, like Sauron says, not surprising. I hope whoever it was didn't screw up the deal for you.
I also hope you can still grab it and share more.
John
69 RS/SS Cortez Silver, L48 MC1
68 RS Ash/Ivy Gold 327EFI M20

x77-69z28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2016, 08:03:09 PM »
Oh boy, Burnished Brown!!!!
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

jacmac

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 277
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2016, 12:09:45 AM »
I like to have that for my 69 chevelle :P
69 Z10,69 ss396Chevelle, 71 Corvette

Kelley W King

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1415
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2016, 12:59:07 PM »
The 400 turbo should be a CX. That could be a deal maker if it is. They are rare and kick A##.
69 Z28 RS Scuncio Hi Performance
69 SS L78
67 SS Chevelle
64 Corvette
66 GTO Tiger Gold
77 Trans Am Special Edition

william

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3138
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2016, 03:48:53 PM »
There were two high-performance versions of the TH400 for 1969: CX for Camaro, Chevelle & Nova CY for Corvette and B body.

Must be short-shaft/long-shaft as the case assemblies have different part numbers.
Learning more and more about less and less...

68camaroz28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2233
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2016, 12:58:59 AM »
Thanks for all the input and info about this car, i could share more about it but one of the members here went out of his way to locate it in an attempt to purchase even though i had interest in it. I learned from this that i should  not  be so revealing with the info about future finds. In the event that i wind up with it i plan to do a simple restoring just because i think it would be cool to have.

That's disappointing and, sadly, like Sauron says, not surprising. I hope whoever it was didn't screw up the deal for you.
I also hope you can still grab it and share more.
X3 and hope you are able to obtain! One very cool and rare Automobile!
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

rodent

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 76
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2016, 06:44:32 AM »
Thanks for all the input and info about this car, i could share more about it but one of the members here went out of his way to locate it in an attempt to purchase even though i had interest in it. I learned from this that i should  not  be so revealing with the info about future finds. In the event that i wind up with it i plan to do a simple restoring just because i think it would be cool to have.

Give the Slippery Gypsy up.

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4031
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2016, 12:50:08 AM »
I really don't care who it was. It wasn't me.

But if this car does sell, I would like to know more about it. I would really have wanted to try for it, but the timing is wrong for any more projects at this time and I don't have room.  But Burnished Brown is a REALLY good color.

I just hope the engine and the CY coded transmission stay with the car!
« Last Edit: December 11, 2016, 02:03:27 AM by bcmiller »
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

x77-69z28

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1058
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2016, 02:25:05 PM »
I care who it was!
69 Z/28 X77 burnished brown, 711 int 05A bought in 78
70 Z28 forrest green, green int, M40, bk vinyl roof PROJECT
99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
15 z/28 Arctic white, A/C 505 HP #251

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2016, 06:19:14 PM »
I concur with X77 on this one....  but it would likely very much embarrass the offender... although I personally doubt any of our 'regulars' would do this...
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

70L34

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 166
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2016, 07:26:11 PM »
Neat car, I had a 425hp Biscayne a while back. If you decide to pass please let us know, deserves restoring!

Dave Siltman

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 28
    • View Profile
Re: 427/425
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2016, 03:05:51 PM »
"Loose lips sink ships"......"and a closed trap won't let out the catch" (that second one is my own line by the way). Go get it and let us know the outcome!

 

anything