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Funny looking trim tag
« on: October 21, 2016, 05:54:29 PM »
Saw this listing today:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Camaro-Z-28-/391601881064?forcerrptr=true&hash=item5b2d4a7fe8:g:Tt0AAOSwnbZYCk9Z&item=391601881064

I have never seen a 4L date code. I am guessing original tag, but mis-stamped?

Wish they would have gone back with the Rally Green paint, I would like to see all these obscure colors come back in popularity, so guys go back with there original paint colors.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2016, 06:01:33 PM »
Real tag. and Yes they should have put it back to the correct color.

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »
8 bizillion pictures and NOT ONE of the engine pad. Typical. I'm surprised they posted a picture of the TT.

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2016, 06:25:47 PM »
I know what that tells me..  Restamp or NOM..  At least until you can see the pad..

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 07:07:57 PM »
11th week of April build.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 07:23:48 PM »
No way is a 3970010 block correct for 9N637177 and 637xxx range.  NOM for sure!

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 07:37:07 PM »
No way is a 3970010 block correct for 9N637177 and 637xxx range.  NOM for sure!

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 07:58:56 PM »
Is Darrell learning a new language...that I'm tentatively calling 'photo communicado'...  :)
That particular VIN (637177)would probably be from 'Mayday'... (or the 11th week of April?).. :) 

PS.  What is the earliest known 3970010 block use?? 
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 08:02:30 PM »





No just amusing myself since I am bored today plus it makes me laugh..


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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 08:22:10 PM »
Were spoilers mandatory by this time? Not seeing center brace for front spoiler.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 08:25:44 PM »
124379N637177

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 10:02:24 PM »
Is Darrell learning a new language...that I'm tentatively calling 'photo communicado'...  :)
That particular VIN (637177)would probably be from 'Mayday'... (or the 11th week of April?).. :) 

PS.  What is the earliest known 3970010 block use?? 
shoot I thought that was a picture of Darrell...  ;D
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2016, 08:32:47 PM »
ditto on the Rally Greene
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2016, 11:16:04 AM »
First 010 blocks appeared before this car was assembled, first casting date of an 010 block is in the third week of April, both 010 and 618 were in use by the first week of May most were 618s but there are a few 010s intermixed at this time.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2016, 12:57:39 PM »
First 010 blocks appeared before this car was assembled, first casting date of an 010 block is in the third week of April, both 010 and 618 were in use by the first week of May most were 618s but there are a few 010s intermixed at this time.

Thank you Mark for supplying a better 'first 010' block date... :)   A week or two is more than enough for an engine to have been built and supplied to a car produced on the 1st of May, if the timings were right...
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 02:25:21 PM »
This is not the first known 4L tag.

I have never personally seen a 010 block that was cast in April of 69, but they exist.  I do have a May of 69 010 block, and no it's not for sale.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Yes, if you are going by the charts and figuring the production date, they will come out within a day.  We have been logging actual dates and casting numbers.  The first 010 block that has been logged was cast D. 22. 9 and a VIN 0f 6389xx.  Furthermore, Buddy's car was the first 010 known at 639xxx until this 6389xx came along.  We have five 04L's within a range of 6369xx to 6372xx.  ALL of them are 618 blocks!!  Buddy has been looking for an 010 earlier than his, for a LONG time.  This 6389xx just barely squeezed by him.  Do you think one in the 637 range is just going to bully its way to the top, Nope.

Congratulations Gary, now you know, along with the rest that didn't need to know!!!

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 04:05:08 PM »
There is at least one cast earlier than that. By several days.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 04:17:18 PM »
Cast but what about stamped?

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2016, 04:21:05 PM »
Bryon, It's not the cast date that matters, it's the assembly date, casting date, and the VIN that it ended up with in the car.  Like I said, several people have been striving to find a 010 block in a Z28 earlier than the numbers above.  There is also the definite ranges and groupings that have become obvious.  Those 04L dates above were very tight grouped.  This car in question is within this group!

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2016, 05:02:21 PM »
Stamped versus cast dates can obviously vary.

I have seen them cast and assembled the same day - and spreads of over a month.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2016, 05:39:51 PM »
Are you talking in general terms of engine blocks or 010 blocks in this range we are discussing?

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2016, 05:51:37 PM »
In general. But there is no reason for blocks in this range to be any different.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2016, 10:34:18 PM »
I should have said that I know of when I said 3rd week of April.  Might be earlier ones, but it is somewhere in that vicinity.
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2016, 10:55:43 PM »
On the eBay car...big mistake not going with Rallye Green.

I didn't see the V0411DZ assembly date. VERY suspect! Axle questionable as well. We need pics. 
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2016, 01:39:14 AM »
Nice car. The wheels are a great period piece.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2016, 05:58:19 PM »
Is your icon pic the same car, before the repaint?
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2016, 06:07:25 PM »
Damn Austin..  You need your eyes checked..  lol

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2016, 06:23:51 PM »
Sorry, I can see it is a blue Camaro with a cowl hood, maybe it is a 68....  :P
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2016, 06:34:39 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2016, 06:37:48 PM »
That is a cool looking car. Love the color, looks like my 66 impala blue. Original Z?
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2016, 07:42:47 PM »
The blue car you are referring to is one of my own cars and nothing to do with this thread. A GM documented blue 68 RS restored back in the mid 80's by its second owner and then tagged as a Z/28 well before cars being referred to as a tribute or clone. All GM original parts on the car and under the hood except for the current breather. Restored with a correct 302, M22 and 410 Posi but not a numbers car in any sense.

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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2016, 02:14:38 PM »
Since the pics referring to that other block were removed (would no longer display), the point of splitting off a new thread was useless. That thread is now gone.  If claims can not be substantiated with direct proof, don't make them.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...
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« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2016, 02:44:44 PM »
lmao at Jerry  :P
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Re: Funny looking trim tag
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2016, 03:24:46 PM »
Jerry who?
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