Author Topic: 1968 code 716 Dalmation White Trm interior code on window sticker (Read 13515 times)

68 Ragtop · « **on:** September 07, 2016, 02:44:13 AM »

I have never seen hounds tooth called Dalmatian and its spelled wrong so I suspect this is a reproduction window sticker.

Also, the trim tag is coded for special paint, but I cant figure out what code HA would be on the WS.

Opinions?

124378N460640

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2016, 05:23:42 AM »

Here is the car's eBay description ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/182270994677?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D0e9e1c7c6bca4f6ea73d542a98901b53%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D302061363588

Paul

maroman · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2016, 10:43:28 AM »

Haven't we seen this car before?

Kelley W King · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2016, 12:17:40 PM »

I think that there are more 68 Z,s than built now than the 69,s

cook_dw · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2016, 12:48:44 PM »

Quote from: Kelley W King on September 07, 2016, 12:17:40 PM

I think that there are more 68 Z,s than built now than the 69,s

Sssshhhiiiiiitttt....

KurtS · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2016, 06:47:18 PM »

That dealer did several special paint cars. I'd guess orange originally.
Real window sticker, never seen that interior name used.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2016, 07:35:42 PM »

If the engine pad (18L322187 V1211MO) is legit, the engine in this car now is out of 124378L322187.

Paul

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2016, 11:56:46 PM »

Quote from: KurtS on September 07, 2016, 06:47:18 PM

That dealer did several special paint cars. I'd guess orange originally.
Real window sticker, never seen that interior name used.

Seller claims Corvette Bronze is the original color. Special paint may be stripe delete. Any idea what RPO 1001HA PAINT means?

Would a standard color with stripe delete be coded on the POP? (no code for paint on this POP)

So the factory used different names for the hounds tooth interior and misspelled words on window stickers?

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2016, 12:17:52 AM »

Quote from: 68 Ragtop on September 07, 2016, 11:56:46 PM

Quote from: KurtS on September 07, 2016, 06:47:18 PM
Real window sticker, never seen that interior name used.

So the factory used different names for the hounds tooth interior and misspelled word on window stickers?

Please, I am not putting down the folks of S. W. Ohio, but you grossly underestimate the abilities of the Norwood crew. Here is a an example: 2 street signs a block apart in my area.
Great bunch of folks, hard workers (because there was alcohol waiting on payday), fun, loyal, good friends, and more common sense and know how than average. Just not a lot of "sharp knives" in the formal education department. Nonetheless, good folks!

BillOhio · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2016, 01:28:38 AM »

That's great Bentley.
The car on ebay looks like it has spring issues. I assume a 68 z should sit like a 69

bcmiller · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2016, 10:16:05 AM »

Bill - 68s are faster than 69s, so they needed to be closer to the ground.

BillOhio · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2016, 12:34:37 PM »

I see lol. One mentioned looks like the motor is out compared to mine!

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2016, 05:22:21 PM »

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on September 08, 2016, 12:17:52 AM

So the factory used different names for the hounds tooth interior and misspelled word on window stickers?

Please, I am not putting down the folks of S. W. Ohio, but you grossly underestimate the abilities of the Norwood crew. Here is a an example: 2 street signs a block apart in my area.
Great bunch of folks, hard workers (because there was alcohol waiting on payday), fun, loyal, good friends, and more common sense and know how than average. Just not a lot of "sharp knives" in the formal education department. Nonetheless, good folks!

I didn't think the window sticker was a manual process done on a local level. If that where the case, I suspect there would be many examples of misspelled words and other mistakes.

According to Hinckley:

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The Scheduling clerk had already produced the P-O-P from the Broadcast Copies picked up at the Engine and Chassis lines, the window sticker, car shipper, and final order copy had been produced, and these were placed in the glove box with the warranty folder and owner's manual while the window sticker was applied to the door glass.

I assumed there would be a computer printing these things out and that by the 10th month of production all options would be uni-formally named and spelling errors corrected.

This is the first example of an unconventional named and misspelled option on a window sticker that I have seen CRG opinion-ate as authentic.

KurtS · « **Reply #13 on:** September 09, 2016, 03:59:49 AM »

I did miss that there is one other 68 with Dalmation interior on the docs - built about the same time, btw.

jdv69z · « **Reply #14 on:** September 09, 2016, 01:08:02 PM »

Here's are quote from the 68 interior codes from the CRG table: "4) 716 was also referred to as "Dalmation White Trim" on documentation for late 68 NOR cars." So I guess they did change the description and misspelled it to boot, or maybe the spelling is intentional?

KurtS · « **Reply #15 on:** September 09, 2016, 06:59:04 PM »

I just added that last night.

The docs have it misspelled.

68 Ragtop · « **Reply #16 on:** September 09, 2016, 07:07:42 PM »

Amazing. Just goes to say that you can never say never with regards to what came out of the factory back then.

Thanks Kurt.

KurtS · « **Reply #17 on:** September 09, 2016, 07:15:51 PM »

I would not say that.
I would say there are always more details to notice. As Bill says, we learn more and more about less.

Bryan302 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 13, 2016, 06:52:30 PM »

A friend of mine, here in town has a 68 plain jane with a/c, ps, bought locally with most of the original paper work. The car is Ash Gold with 716 Ivory HT. The dealer Invoice and the dealer order form refer to the 716 interior as Dalmation White Trim. I have had these documents in my hands. The window sticker may be there also.

Bryan

bertfam · « **Reply #19 on:** September 13, 2016, 06:55:04 PM »

Bryan, I would assume his car is a late Norwood build? Would it be possible to get him to send us scans of the docs?

Ed

Bryan302 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 14, 2016, 07:35:29 AM »

Hi Ed, Yes, I will hit him up for the docs. It may take me a week or so. It is NOR, and I think about 04 or 05, but not sure. My CRS kicks in more often these days.

Bryan

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2016, 07:25:34 PM »

Quote from: 1968RSZ28 on September 07, 2016, 05:23:42 AM

Here is the car's eBay description ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/182270994677?_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133649%26meid%3D0e9e1c7c6bca4f6ea73d542a98901b53%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D302061363588

Paul

No sale 9-13-16...

Reserve not met = ? (> $27,805.00)

Paul

Pacecar · « **Reply #22 on:** September 17, 2016, 11:13:19 PM »

Have seen that paint code used before, 1001HA as a special order paint. Car also had dash dash trim tag. 03D build with special order black paint. So guessing code is for special order, whether stripe delete or different, normally unavailable color, do not know

KurtS · « **Reply #23 on:** September 18, 2016, 06:45:16 PM »

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#ExteriorColors:S:SpecialPaint

fsc66 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2016, 12:29:11 PM »

From the link Kurt posted, this is an excerpt: "On the window sticker and on broadcast copy sheets, "1001AA" and "1001HA" have been observed as designating special paint cars. Note that all cars were painted, no Camaros were shipped from the assembly plant in primer".
In my documents under exterior paint codes, I have a line item that states: "Special and Prime" with production numbers as a total for both, so not so sure NO cars came from the factory, primed. Again just going by what GM docs state.
Same line item description for 1967, 1968 and 1969.
Paul Winvoices

maroman · « **Reply #25 on:** September 20, 2016, 01:08:56 PM »

No idea on Camaros, but I remember seeing an early '70's Corvette that was shipped in primer. It had PRIME stamped on the trim tag.

KurtS · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2016, 03:50:09 AM »

Since it's both summated together, that doesn't mean much.

No Camaros. Other vehicle lines, it could be possible.

bcmiller · « **Reply #27 on:** September 21, 2016, 11:44:40 PM »

I agree with Kurt. I have heard of cars shipped in primer, but have never seen a Camaro like that.

mr68 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 20, 2016, 11:47:38 PM »

Hey guys, new to the forum. I ended up being the lucky buyer of this car. I saw it and thought it was very unique. I have been dealing with old Camaros for around 30 years. The owner made a mistake about the Corvette Bronze. The code on the trim tag is "--".

The window sticker is REAL as is the POP. I also have an original owners manual that came with the car, as did old registration cards back to 1985. The original selling dealer, Grabiak Chevrolet is still operating in PA.

The previous owner gave me some photos that were taken during the resto which included photos of the front cowl area behind the fender. it was a lighter orange color, which i think helps to identify this as an original orange car. When i got the car I also noticed some orange behind the door panels at the top looking down inside the door by the window, but have not take the panels off yet.

The car has its original interior and is very clean. Original gauges and dash. I believe this car has 36k original miles. It has zero rust issues, clean underneath. I just got the car home here in Texas and I am in the process of going thru all the numbers.

Glad to be a new member!

Mike

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 21, 2016, 12:05:25 AM »

Congratulations mr68, and welcome to CRG!

Paul

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