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jim28607

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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2016, 05:00:43 AM »
Well that appears to be a late 69 and 70 passenger car 12 bolt.

Is there a casting date in the webbing area at the edge of the center section? From the rear look at the upper drivers side. Might be something like H 10 9

Go to this link and scroll down for casting date location.

http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#axle

Look close at that stamped MC again. Could it be CMC ? With the first C spaced over a little?

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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2016, 06:06:24 AM »
But, we still don't know exactly what it was from. The code on the tube doesn't seem to make sense relative to the center casting.
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2016, 11:14:52 AM »
Frankenstein diff.. 

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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2016, 12:48:30 AM »
It appears that I have a mutt for a diff, so what would one pay for a nicely redone 69 date code 12 bolt pos , non # rearend ?
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2016, 11:57:44 AM »
I met a guy at the Raleigh NC show sometime back who had several 12 bolts advertised as Camaro rearends. They were noticeablely modified. He said he took full size car 12 bolts and narrowed them and changed the spring perches. He was asking $1500.00 but he clearly did not try to match the welding. We needed one but passed on his. Found a real one rebuilt 410 posi and I think we paid $1200.00 but was really nice.
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2016, 01:13:32 PM »
It appears that I have a mutt for a diff, so what would one pay for a nicely redone 69 date code 12 bolt posi , non # rear end ?

You will have to do more research to determine value. You would have to provide the following to get a value: Spring perch-multi leaf or mono?  Posi unit-Does it have one? factory?- aftermarket? 3 series? 4? what gear ratio?
I sold a single track, 3.08 12 bolt for a Chevelle for $300. Camaros generally fetch more (perhaps 3X) for an equivalent.
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2016, 04:16:45 PM »
I met a guy at the Raleigh NC show sometime back who had several 12 bolts advertised as Camaro rearends. They were noticeablely modified. He said he took full size car 12 bolts and narrowed them and changed the spring perches. He was asking $1500.00 but he clearly did not try to match the welding. We needed one but passed on his. Found a real one rebuilt 410 posi and I think we paid $1200.00 but was really nice.

Then you got an EXCELLENT deal if you paid $1200.

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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2016, 04:20:55 PM »
It appears that I have a mutt for a diff, so what would one pay for a nicely redone 69 date code 12 bolt pos , non # rearend ?

Honestly if it's a posi with a gear ratio that will work for you, I wouldn't worry about it. If it is functionally good for your needs, don't worry about the "numbers" at this point.

It is possible that it's a modified 1970 Impala rear, but without the casting date I don't think we can say for sure.

Price for a replacement will depend on what you want, but the engine and trans aren't original either - correct?
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2016, 05:41:07 PM »
It appears that I have a mutt for a diff, so what would one pay for a nicely redone 69 date code 12 bolt pos , non # rearend ?

Honestly if it's a posi with a gear ratio that will work for you, I wouldn't worry about it. If it is functionally good for your needs, don't worry about the "numbers" at this point.

It is possible that it's a modified 1970 Impala rear, but without the casting date I don't think we can say for sure.

Price for a replacement will depend on what you want, but the engine and trans aren't original either - correct?

Engine is  not for certain , and at this point probably not trans either . So I do agree why bother , but we just love to tinker with these things , so I'm always looking for something to improve .
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2016, 06:38:00 PM »
http://www.moserengineering.com/complete-rear-end-assemblies/12-bolt-moser-complete-bolt-in-assembly/12-bolt-built-to-order-rear-end-package.html
Build it how you want it or,
I see "rebuilt" complete assemblies for $1800 and up. You never know who "rebuilds" them and what parts are used.
I paid $1000 for mine(69 3.08 coded) and replaced all the bearings with timkens, changed the gears so I now have about $1500 in it, discounting my labor. And, I eventually put new Moser axles in it.
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Re: Rear Axle housing Decode Help
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2016, 07:32:52 PM »
It appears that I have a mutt for a diff, so what would one pay for a nicely redone 69 date code 12 bolt pos , non # rearend ?

Honestly if it's a posi with a gear ratio that will work for you, I wouldn't worry about it. If it is functionally good for your needs, don't worry about the "numbers" at this point.

It is possible that it's a modified 1970 Impala rear, but without the casting date I don't think we can say for sure.

Price for a replacement will depend on what you want, but the engine and trans aren't original either - correct?

Engine is  not for certain , and at this point probably not trans either . So I do agree why bother , but we just love to tinker with these things , so I'm always looking for something to improve .

Well my engine and transmission are not original to the car either.  Engine is a 1974 454 from a truck.  Bottom end is over built, to hopefully last forever.  4 bolt main block with forged crank, forged pistons and good aftermarket rods, cam is close to LS6 specs.  Transmission is a 1968 M21, but from a Chevelle.  Rear axle housing is original to the car, but none of the "guts" are (different posi, gears, aftermarket axles).

So, you are not alone. Many cars don't have the original drive train, for whatever reason.  The main thing is to enjoy these cars and enjoy life.  I love the "numbers" but when it gets right down to it, that doesn't make the car drive any better.  :)
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Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016