Author Topic: Another fake Z.... (Read 11811 times)

BULLITT65 · « **on:** August 30, 2016, 04:50:10 AM »

So here is my 69 Camaro contribution of the day...of course another fake Z.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-True-Z28-/231950072181?forcerrptr=true&hash=item36014d3975:g:7J0AAOSwEOxXPgSW&item=231950072181

(Can you recognize one when you see one?)

This one was a little easier to spot, or I am getting better recognizing the fake from the authentic...

(VIN 124379N522694)

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #1 on:** August 30, 2016, 12:52:12 PM »

A 'fake' TRUE Z28?

?..... How can that be?

jdv69z · « **Reply #2 on:** August 30, 2016, 12:57:28 PM »

Gotta be real. It's got the three spoke steering wheel and the Winters logo on the manifold.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2016, 03:07:10 PM »

I emailed the seller, we will see if he changes the listing, or removes it.

Kelley W King · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2016, 03:33:41 PM »

So, how many 69 Z,s does that make on the road today?

BillOhio · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2016, 07:34:51 PM »

That's pretty bad

z28z11 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2016, 12:30:08 AM »

Quote from: Kelley W King on August 30, 2016, 03:33:41 PM

So, how many 69 Z,s does that make on the road today?

Gotta be somewhere north of 150,000 - about half of the total production of Camaros at this point.

Z28Project · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2016, 07:42:04 PM »

Good! Now I don't have to feel so bad about the rear stripe application.

BillOhio · « **Reply #8 on:** August 31, 2016, 07:56:49 PM »

I didn't look far enough to see those rear stripes wow.
Austin did you hear back from the seller?

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2016, 11:07:37 PM »

I did not hear back, so I decided to call. Spoke to Patrick, he said "Oh we get these calls often, and your the 3rd person that has called on this car, saying the tag is fake". I asked "does that give you pause then?"
Oh no, we have a guy thats been doing this for 18 years (Paul) and he checks them all out. Patrick says he thought he overheard Paul telling a customer on the phone that he has special GM Docs that show they used X codes early on. So Patrick is going to have Paul get me that doc, or contact me and let me know why this car is real.

firstgenaddict · « **Reply #10 on:** September 02, 2016, 11:03:32 PM »

It could have an X7 behind the seat. I feel confident that October Norwood cars did not have the narrow stripe configuration if they ever did.

I know of a couple of Original paint 09B Norwood cars with the std configuration and a 09B LOS with the narrow 68 style stripe.

67jeffreyt · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2017, 02:34:25 AM »

This car is still for sale. I don't know anything on 69 Camaros, so my curiosity is what is the obvious you guys are seeing to make this car is a fake z/28?

rick 67 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2017, 03:17:52 AM »

No one here will tell you why they think (know) this car is a fake. If they did then the fakers would know what they did wrong. But if you do enough reading of threads here and see enough trim tags and follow along you can start to get a good idea. I know very little about Z28's but after it is pointed out as fake it is a very obvious error.

Rick

bertfam · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2017, 03:33:47 AM »

Quote

I don't know anything on 69 Camaros, so my curiosity is what is the obvious you guys are seeing to make this car is a fake z/28?

Read the first sentence in THIS LINK and you should be able to figure it out.

Ed

67jeffreyt · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2017, 09:35:18 PM »

Thanks for the link, I don't usually look at 69 Camaro's, but I hate people that pass fakes as originals. Trying to dupe a potential buyer isn't right, but an informed buyer is an empowered buyer.

X33RS · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2017, 11:33:32 PM »

That picture is dark and hard for me to see but am I seeing a 10C build with an X code? LOL

Boston14 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2017, 01:37:45 AM »

Another gauges car with the clock delete option.

KurtS · « **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2017, 11:21:51 PM »

Quote from: 67jeffreyt on January 07, 2017, 02:34:25 AM

This car is still for sale. I don't know anything on 69 Camaros, so my curiosity is what is the obvious you guys are seeing to make this car is a fake z/28?

That's not a secret - too early for X-codes. When we start talking fonts, that's different....

67jeffreyt · « **Reply #18 on:** January 09, 2017, 11:45:48 PM »

Thanks Kurt, I'm still learning

HustleRussell · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2017, 12:28:57 AM »

Isn't the grill supposed to be silver?

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2017, 12:57:39 AM »

Yes, and I am sure there are other things that are not correct, but that is the least of the worries for a buyer who falls for this description buy the seller.

X33RS · « **Reply #21 on:** January 10, 2017, 10:53:43 PM »

You're right Bullitt, an early build car like this one would have a narrow 68 spoiler, 7k tach, and too early for a ZL2 hood. But you see early build real Z's with those mistakes pretty often. We already know the gauges were added though because they didn't bother to install the clock. But it's a clone anyway so....

I hope someone does their homework before buying this one.

HustleRussell · « **Reply #22 on:** January 10, 2017, 11:40:59 PM »

Shouldn't the head rests be straight? And a real x77 with rear quarter trim?

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2017, 12:10:07 AM »

There are many things incorrect. Yes it has all of the X33 trim, there are more items incorrect than correct with this car.
Even the Vin tag looks bit beat up, makes me wonder of that got switched from another car....

Dave C. · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2017, 01:42:30 AM »

Didn't 69 production run into november of 69, and isn't that a late vin number?

FortLangleyBC · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2017, 01:52:55 AM »

Quote from: Dave C. on January 14, 2017, 01:42:30 AM

Didn't 69 production run into november of 69, and isn't that a late vin number?

Norwood VIN 522xxx is Oct 1968

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