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1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« on: August 05, 2016, 06:24:14 PM »

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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 06:43:15 PM »
Seems like it could be a decent buy. But it was posted 10 days ago. By now someone has checked it out.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 07:38:57 PM »
Any idea on VIN?
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 08:27:47 PM »
NOM, Repaint??? Survivor?? 1st mis-representation right there.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2016, 09:05:51 PM »
Sounds like mine ,62,000 miles one repaint, NOM 302, original interior except carpet and front seats. No docs but NCRS verified Scuncio Car. Gives me a place to think about value of future sale.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 09:16:17 PM »
 I sent a post about my car before I saw the last post. I have never called my car a survivor. Now my 69 L78 , CE block, CX turbo, original interior, rear end, dated Holley which I think is too rare to be found and owner history back to 77 last repaint (talked to them by phone) I still do not refer to it as a survivor. Too many under hood parts not original. But my CX has the vin on it. It is a ball of fire to drive.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 09:32:04 PM »
The term Survivor is WAY overused.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2016, 09:50:00 PM »
Any 40+ year old car still on the road qualifies as a survivor these days....

I like the color. Just like Bills car, that color can really deep.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2016, 09:56:17 PM »
There was one at mecum harrisburg in Burgundy that brought 60. I haven't talked to Chick to see the deal on it. It was called a survivor but no real info listed and it had a rear antenna that didn't look right
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 10:08:46 PM »
Any 40+ year old car still on the road qualifies as a survivor these days....


Incorrect.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2016, 10:17:10 PM »
I believe the NCRS allows repaints in their survivor class. And no one questions John Z's car, which has a warranty shortblock.

It's a term subject to interpretation.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2016, 11:10:38 PM »
I believe the NCRS allows repaints in their survivor class. And no one questions John Z's car, which has a warranty shortblock.

It's a term subject to interpretation.

I agree it is all in the eyes of the "seller" these days, and each seller makes his best case of how their car should be considered a survivor.
"it has all original panels"
" it was repainted in the original colors"
"replacement motor was built using original specs or parts"
"original owner put new quarters on the car to keep it in pristine condition"
" Car only has 15k miles and was treated to a full restoration"
I have seen all these descriptions and more, used to classify a classic car as a survivor.

I think it is just easier to say unrestored vs. restored, and even then there is some grey area on what has been maintained vs left to age.

I like Cooks car that he got from his dad. Darrell does a great job of keeping up on it and maintaining it so it can be driven. To me his car fits what I would consider unrestored. I would also put Gary's Orange RS Z in there. Just my 2 cents ;)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2016, 11:25:50 PM »
I believe the NCRS allows repaints in their survivor class. And no one questions John Z's car, which has a warranty shortblock.

It's a term subject to interpretation.

Just like "matching numbers" for some people.

My ideas for a Survivor include...
1. Original or mostly original paint.
2. Original or mostly original interior.
3. Original engine, transmission and rear axle plus most additional components (carb, distributor, alternator, starter, etc.)

A car with dealer warranty work, and paperwork to back it up - can be given some wiggle room.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2016, 11:33:18 PM »
I don't think NCRS has a "Survivor" designation.

That's Bloomington Gold.
http://www.bloomingtongold.com/index.php/events/classic-events/judging/survivor-corvette

The SURVIVOR®  Award is designed to recognize those Corvettes that are "worn in, but not worn out." A SURVIVOR Corvette is significantly unrestored, unrepaired, or unmodified and meets these requirements:

Is over 20 years old
Can pass a road test over 10 miles
Retains OEM engine
Remains unrestored, un-refinished, or unaltered;
50% or more in all four sections to attain SURVIVOR Bronze
66% or more in all four sections to attain SURVIVOR Silver
80% or more in all four sections to attain SURVIVOR Gold

Retains finishes good enough to use as a color guide for restoration of a car just like it.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

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Re: 1969 Camaro Z/28 Survivor
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2016, 12:20:28 AM »
I'm not considering my car as anything other than an unrivaled treasure.. 8). But I'm biased. ;D

 

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