Author Topic: Installation Trunk Lid Emblem (Read 12261 times)

jack · « **on:** June 04, 2016, 06:31:36 PM »

Hi Guys

I want to install a CAMARO BY CHEVROLET emblem on my trunk lid for my 1969 SS. The trunk is not the original and I don't know where to do my holes.

My car has no rear spoiler.

Does someone have the exact location where to put this emblem on my rear lid?

Thanks

Jack

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2016, 06:41:37 PM »

I think there is a thread on here from somebody else with the same dilemma. Also you can look at the Camaro assembly manual, and it is probably measured out in there.

jack · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2016, 03:51:12 PM »

I had tried to find a thread but had no luck. If you do have pictures and measurements that will be so great.

Thanks a lot Bullitt65

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2016, 04:29:45 PM »

Here is a link for the downloadable AIM:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9433.0
If it is still busy, try this:
http://www.cardiagn.com/1969-chevrolet-camaro-factory-assembly-instruction-manual-pdf/

You just have to scroll through it, and find the page for rear emblem placement.

69 Zee · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2016, 04:31:16 PM »

Hello Jack, I'm out of house this moment. If nobody post up, I'll attach pics with dims from my lid in a couple hours. It's original no spoiler (was added afterwards).

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2016, 04:38:21 PM »

Thanks Darrell.
Jack you may want to compare what the AIM shows compared to Darrells car, just for a frame of reference for the future.

69 Zee · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2016, 04:47:20 PM »

Yes X2 with what Austin is implying. You never know..lol. My Z was a spoiler delete 03B build. The spoiler was added afterwards (by someone who thought no spoilers were uncool)

I know I once searched just in general and most talked about emblem placement after adding the now uncool spoiler..he he he !

gotta poke at you spoiler guys..lol

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2016, 04:53:02 PM »

Well by the time my Z was ordered I think the spoiler equipment was mandatory. I like the looks of my car, but the early cars with no spoilers seem more rare to find these days, because So many spoilers were added.

jack · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2016, 07:42:45 PM »

Guys do you know what page in the AIM? I do have the 69 Camaro AIM but I find the measures for the rear Lid Emblem measures?

69 Zee · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2016, 04:29:27 AM »

Jack, sorry for the delay..busy day.

The deck lid emblem was installed by Fisher Body p/n 7752901 so you won't find it in the AIM. The front header emblem p/n 3916654 C-1 was installed by GM which is shown in the AIM. The two emblems look very similar "BUT" they are different from one another.

The dimensions your seeing in the pics are in reference to an ORIGINAL non spoiler deck lid (spoiler was added afterwards which is why you see the two larger holes also) and using an ORIGINAL emblem p/n 7752901 on a 03B Norwood build. If your using a reproduction emblem or the front header emblem these dims may not work for your application...."my little disclaimer"

In general, Lay out these dim's. Take the emblem your using and dab some of the wife's lipstick on the 4 prongs and place it on the lid. If all is original as stated above then you should hit these locations dead nutz !

Good luck, keep us posted.

69 Zee · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2016, 04:30:58 AM »

More dims

69 Zee · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2016, 04:32:12 AM »

annnnd two more

Hope these help

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2016, 04:39:09 AM »

Nice work Darrell. I have one of those somewhere, I think I used it to measure how big my ruffles potato chips were, I was eating one day....
Maybe I left it in the pantry with orange finger marks on it

Seriously that is a good follow up Darrell.

69 Zee · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2016, 04:56:19 AM »

Thanks Austin, Man I searched "around" and "around" and "around" (unless I'm blind) and surprisingly I found no dim. references to these emblem holes.

Now watch...half a dozen thread links will pop up now after I said that

jack · « **Reply #14 on:** June 08, 2016, 01:08:03 AM »

Nice

Thanks Darrel, that is great work.

I actually bought NOS p/n 3916654 and was told it was the rear lid NOS emblem.

What is the difference between 3916654 and 7752901?

Jack

69 Zee · « **Reply #15 on:** June 08, 2016, 02:13:56 PM »

The "Camaro" script and the "By Chevrolet" block lettering was different though they look very very similar unless put side by side.

There was a difference in the positioning of the location pins as well. I'll dig mine out and post pics.

With today's reproduction, I strongly doubt that each one of these emblems are being reproduced as two separate emblems. Since they look similar (to most) it's just cost effective to produce one design to use in both places, the header and deck lid.

Another reason to "measure twice" and cut once. If your using the reproduction emblem of p/n 3916654 and your not shooting for factory correct then use. But I'd suggest to pick one point on deck lid, then caliper the pins of the new emblem at center-to-center or as stated earlier, use a lipstick of sort and plot on paper. Use as a template.

Or you can find the factory 'Fisher Body" emblems on ebay. I see them all the time from $15 to $25.

Pick your poison...lol

jack · « **Reply #16 on:** June 08, 2016, 07:59:18 PM »

I am trying to restore the car Correct. Its a matching numbers car.

Please show me pics if possible. I will try to hunt down a NOS 7752901. On the web (for sale) they say a rear nos emblem is 3916654.

Thanks

Jack

69 Zee · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08, 2016, 08:59:10 PM »

About a yr ago I noticed my Z/28 emblems for the fenders, grille and tail panel had similar p/n markings. During I found another thread on CRG on these emblems as well (been to busy to search, sorry). I believe John Z had mentioned in that thread that the deck lid emblem was a Fisher Body installation (reason it's not in the AIM).

John please forgive me if it wasn't you as my memory may of lapsed...ugh !

That drew my attention to mine header and deck lid emblems as I was bagging and tagging. My emblem p/n's are exactly as those mentioned before and they are original to the car.

NOW...my car is a Norwood 03B date trim tag. I'm only stating this because anything seemed possible during these builds and I don't want you or anyone else locked in on what I'm saying.

Did GM and Fisher Body install these emblems with different p/n's thru the entire building process ? Or could there of been a time that one Division could of ran short thus grabbing some from the other ? Which would put two emblems of the same p/n on the same car....Maybe John Z can chime in.

Looking at the backs, notice the casting of the scripted lettering. There's more recessed cavity area on the deck lid (bottom pic) vs the header emblem (top pic)

69 Zee · « **Reply #18 on:** June 08, 2016, 09:19:33 PM »

Quote from: jack on June 08, 2016, 07:59:18 PM

I will try to hunt down a NOS 7752901. On the web (for sale) they say a rear nos emblem is 3916654.

Yes, since the backs are fastened to the car and nobody can see them why produce two different emblems that look virtually the same. Also, what sells in reproduction parts ? a GM p/n or a Fisher Body p/n?

Remember, Fisher Body installed and completed most to these shell from the firewall back. This included trim molding, glass, doors, deck lid, emblems, hardware and some wiring among a few other things.

jack · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2016, 03:00:55 AM »

Thanks Darrell

You have been a great help..

Jack

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2016, 12:07:54 PM »

Quote from: jack on June 08, 2016, 01:08:03 AM

What is the difference between 3916654 and 7752901?

Jack

To my understanding:
Dimensionally, these 2 emblems are the same. The reason for 2 part numbers is that the trunk one had sealer (black rubber like) inside the speed nuts to seal water out of the trunk interior. The header, of course, did not have, nor needed sealer.

69 Zee · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2016, 01:32:51 PM »

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on June 11, 2016, 12:07:54 PM

To my understanding:
Dimensionally, these 2 emblems are the same. The reason for 2 part numbers is that the trunk one had sealer (black rubber like) inside the speed nuts to seal water out of the trunk interior. The header, of course, did not have, nor needed sealer.

Thanks Bentley, you are correct. I failed to correct that previous statement. The 2 are identical in dimensions.

zman1969 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2016, 02:04:37 PM »

well this thread has great information in it! and I am interested in installing the emblem on my car soon and it is a spoiler car, would anyone care to post up the measurements for a spoiler car and kind of complete the thread - with and without spoilers? thanks All!

KurtS · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2016, 02:55:44 AM »

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on June 11, 2016, 12:07:54 PM

The reason for 2 part numbers is that the trunk one had sealer (black rubber like) inside the speed nuts to seal water out of the trunk interior. The header, of course, did not have, nor needed sealer.

That would not cause two different emblem part numbers. The emblems would be the same and just the speed nuts would be different.
Even if the supplier put sealer on the emblem, the assembly would different but the emblems would be the same #.

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Author Topic: Installation Trunk Lid Emblem (Read 12261 times)