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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #90 on: October 31, 2019, 10:34:26 PM »
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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #91 on: November 01, 2019, 03:48:21 PM »
can you tell if there is rubber on the forward levers on the hole where the shiftier rod is installed ?

the assembly manual looks to show no rubber and used a spring washer but some cars have been found with the rubber on the lever

I have seen both types of forward levers (with rubber and without)

pics show the two types of levers

Firebird and GTO used the levers with rubber also

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2019, 04:32:55 PM »
Good information Joe. Itís good to see this thread that we started is still active.
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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #93 on: November 07, 2019, 01:24:58 PM »
We should add levers to the 1969 shifter report but I'm not sure if the 69 Camaros should have the rubber on them or not

The assembly manual shows no rubber on the levers.
It shows spring washers which are not normally used with rubber

The metal levers are the same with or without the rubber molded on them

1968 and 1969 GTO and Firebird used the rubber coated levers

Some original looking 1969 Camaros have shown up with the rubber on the levers

not sure if the rubber ones were sold as service parts or something


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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #94 on: November 07, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »
I have the rubber on my early 69Z, and wasn't sure it was original since I hadn't seen them before, until this thread appeared. One issue I have is while everything appears to be original, my reverse shift rod appears that it is the right shape, but a couple inches shorter than the ones shown here. Can anyone measure theirs for me?
(With the alignment pin in the linkage, I barley have enough threads to get the nut on)
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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2019, 09:48:41 PM »
the Rev lever in my picture measures 3 3/16 in long

also interesting that many original Rev levers I have seen are black oxide and forward levers are silver cad plated 

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2019, 09:53:29 PM »
opps you asked for the revese rod

mine measures 8 5/8 long and is stamped 5771 

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2019, 03:41:22 PM »
Graeme, great to see you over here as well! Love your new ride! There is a lot to learn from that one.
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Here are a few pics I grabbed when the car arrived a couple weeks ago. Not the best pics but clearly, there are no rubber insulators on the shift levers on this 10E car.







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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2019, 04:10:28 PM »
And here is a close up of the shifter legs and the original rubber insulators.

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2019, 04:14:04 PM »
opps you asked for the revese rod

mine measures 8 5/8 long and is stamped 5771 

Thanks Joe. What month was the car produced? I only ask because looking at reply 88 from Green NV 10E car, his rods have a lot of thread showing after the nuts.
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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2019, 08:02:10 PM »
I don't have the car , just have the shifter
it is a June 1969 date code
it looks all original and complete
it does not have the rubber on the levers
even has the original alloy ball

don't forget that you can adjust the shifter forward or back because the lower shifter bolt on the mount plate is in a slot.
that will make your rod adjustment longer or shorter

if you have a console , you may not have much room to adjust it

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2019, 09:31:39 PM »
Ok just got some more info.Crawled under the car and cleaned up the linkage enough to get the date code:
10B Los Angles car
date: 8 8 D 4
I also see the part number 3138 on the front.
So it seems to line up ok date wise, based on the other examples

Joe, no console, and I see your point on the adjustment plate.
So measuring my rod, I am only getting 8 3/8, and I do not see a part number on it. Looking at your pic my rod looks slightly different.
Could the rods have been different for the early cars?
(fyi I only have the rubber on the linkage, I don't see any rubber grommets on my trans shifter key ways.

Also all my rods are held with cotter pins. When did hurst start using the spring clips?
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2019, 04:47:57 PM »
I have not seen different length small block rods
big blocks rods are different length
was yours cut off or ground down on the end?

the Hurst spring clip was out well before 1969

The spring clip should not be used with a rubber bushing

the rubber bushing used a flat washer

the levers with no rubber used a flat washer and a spring washer

see the assembly view in the CRG Shifter report here

http://www.camaros.org/shifters.shtml

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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2019, 05:28:15 PM »
Thanks I have read that page a while back. While my rod does not exactly look like yours, when I went back to the shifter page it does look spot on to the one pictured, ( slight angle on the trans side of the rod pin mount) and as the research article says some did not have part numbers stamped in them.
 I also assume you mean no rubber, flat washer spring clip.

So since the transmission side of the linkage does not have rubber on the shifter key ways, did any of these get the steel shifter bushings and spring clip?
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Re: Hurst Shifter date codes
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2019, 06:03:46 AM »

 I also assume you mean no rubber, flat washer spring clip.

no, I do mean spring washer not a spring clip

the 1969 assembly drawing shows the trans levers with no rubber used  a spring washer, a flat washer , and a cotter pin
the shifter levers with rubber used a flat washer , and a cotter pin

 

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