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Butchie7284

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PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« on: April 03, 2016, 04:29:26 AM »
So during the time I have been documenting my 68 ss350, I seen that one of the P stamps are backwards. Any reason or meaning why it was backwards?

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2016, 01:50:24 PM »
It failed Paint review.  ;D  Just kidding! I've seen a few over the years but have never heard or read any reason other than maybe an inspector did it that way possibly to distinguish he did that one.
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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 02:28:01 PM »
I wonder how that stamp was acquired.  Or what the stamp they used actually looked like.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2016, 02:37:48 PM »
Does anyone offer the stamp to duplicate the backwards "P"??  I don't recall seeing that anywhere but it would be nice for others, including Butchie,  restoring these cars that want to duplicate the quirks that are found on quite a few of these things.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2016, 02:39:27 PM »
So during the time I have been documenting my 68 ss350, I seen that one of the P stamps are backwards. Any reason or meaning why it was backwards?

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2016, 02:40:00 PM »
 My guess would be it was just a manufacturing error which had gone unnoticed until it was used. Then used until it was replaced with a correct one. Being there were Camaro's rolling off the line every few minutes I'm sure many were stamped with the defect. I think it could possibly be a defective 'B' with part of the top portion missing so a quick glance would look like a 'P' but not realizing it was reversed.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2016, 02:42:43 PM »
Interesting.  Most of the quirks I see with the stampings, they aren't backwards, just upside down.  But I could see how a B missing the top would look like an upside down AND backwards P, lol

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2016, 02:45:00 PM »
Interesting.  Most of the quirks I see with the stampings, they aren't backwards, just upside down.
  That's what I think it's a defective 'B' that an inspector mistaken for a 'P' and not yet realizing it was reversed as a 'P'.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2016, 03:55:08 PM »
Interesting.  Most of the quirks I see with the stampings, they aren't backwards, just upside down.
  That's what I think it's a defective 'B' that an inspector mistaken for a 'P' and not yet realizing it was reversed as a 'P'.

Mike
Mike, I should clarify as I agree the reversed "P" is what has been noted and what I was referring to earlier in my post but someone did post a picture before of a reversed P.
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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2016, 04:17:24 PM »
Hi Chick,

  I think one way the OP can get by this unique stamping is to perhaps tape (maybe the firewall -or- the stamp) the missing part of the 'B' to duplicate it. Or better yet, preserve that area to show it's truly original and unique.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2016, 04:19:17 PM »
So that would raise my question then, as far as duplicating that on a car since all I've seen from vendors are simple PBT stamp sets.

I'm thinking one could buy an extra B, remove the top portion, then flip it upside down and you would have a right side up backward P.  Hmmm

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2016, 04:20:02 PM »
Ah you beat me Mike but I think we came up with the same idea, lol

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2016, 08:47:23 PM »
With these sorts of stamps, if you are going too fast, and don't ensure that you've stamped the full letter/character, then it's possible to get only a partial stamping, even if the full stamp letter is present..  it might be interesting, and prove/disprove the point if someone who has a 'B' stamp, tries to stamp it 'not squarely' and see if you can produce an upside down/reversed 'P'....
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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2016, 09:14:01 PM »
Here is a picture.  IMO it looks fairly different than a messed up B.

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Re: PTB stamps backwards P meaning?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2016, 09:14:58 PM »
To me it looks like a legit backwards P

 

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