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1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« on: February 25, 2016, 10:41:24 PM »
Is this for real? I do not know how to link item.
eBay item number:
131732029322
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 10:46:17 PM »
It looks legit. That was one expensive Camaro
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
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69 Z/28 07A X77D80 HO/Blk Vinyl Top, born w/drive train, full 3 owner hist
67 SS396 138 Conv/Red/Blk int.
66 SS396 138 4sp CA car/Smog/Blk/Red int. POP, born w/drive train, orig CA blk plates http://www.chevelles.com/forums/35-restoration-corner/528818-66-ss-finally-back-track-30.html

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 11:05:29 PM »
Protect-O-Plate (POP), window sticker, & sale contract.

Seller id: phil1968camaross
Seller location: Sarasota, FL
Seller contact number: 941-232-0298

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 11:36:23 PM »
I didn't see the BB upgrade he references in the pics
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 11:37:33 PM »
That's as bad as a reproduction window sticker gets. A 3.75 positraction axle?

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2016, 12:12:00 AM »
That's as bad as a reproduction window sticker gets. A 3.75 positraction axle?

Lol I was thinking the same thing..  Shheewww

The pop looks fake too..  But I dont have a large library of them to compare..
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 12:23:44 AM »
Same guy has this X22 "here we have some cool car art real 1969 camaro cowl tag" for sale too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-chevy-camaro-SS-RS-396-cowl-tag-/131732023216?hash=item1eabd727b0:g:TmoAAOSwG-1Wx316

ST 69  12437  NOR213535BDY
TR     711              63   B  PNT
       12C                X22
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Len H. KS
69 Z/28 07A X77D80 HO/Blk Vinyl Top, born w/drive train, full 3 owner hist
67 SS396 138 Conv/Red/Blk int.
66 SS396 138 4sp CA car/Smog/Blk/Red int. POP, born w/drive train, orig CA blk plates http://www.chevelles.com/forums/35-restoration-corner/528818-66-ss-finally-back-track-30.html

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 12:28:49 AM »
Hard to tell from those pics but the tag looks real..
Darrell Cook

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 03:26:21 AM »
Other Docs=N666321. shown pop N6662231 and the real deal. Compare and you decide?
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2016, 03:32:24 AM »
IMHO both the window sticker and POP look too perfect to be 47 years old. (Especially the sticker!) My 68 POP is in pretty good shape but not as "nice" as this one...
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2016, 04:52:40 AM »
IMHO both the window sticker and POP look too perfect to be 47 years old. (Especially the sticker!) My 68 POP is in pretty good shape but not as "nice" as this one...

I agree! My 66 Chevelle POP looks pretty much like the first one that Bentley shows.
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69 Z/28 07A X77D80 HO/Blk Vinyl Top, born w/drive train, full 3 owner hist
67 SS396 138 Conv/Red/Blk int.
66 SS396 138 4sp CA car/Smog/Blk/Red int. POP, born w/drive train, orig CA blk plates http://www.chevelles.com/forums/35-restoration-corner/528818-66-ss-finally-back-track-30.html

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2016, 04:57:36 AM »
It looks legit. That was one expensive Camaro

Sorry, for the bone head quick response. Lazy on my part

 
I didn't see the BB upgrade he references in the pics

Ok now I see on the lower part of the window sticker where it says L-72 option.( I thought it was ordered after the fact)
I would be calling B.S. on that. I don't have a bunch of window stickers to compare, just Jerrys book. There are other discrepancies but that L-72 substitution, not to mention the font, would raise a red flag.

I was going to go into more detail regarding the P.O.P. but I was getting into to many details, and prefer not to help anybody out making one :)


1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2016, 12:50:07 PM »
I personally wouldn't be so quick to claim a fake protecto-plate just because it's in nice shape.  My father bought his 69 GTO brand new, still has it.  His protecto-plate is in near mint condition after all these years.  He never had the car in for any warranty work and the protecto-plate stayed in his folder in the house all these years and was never tampered with.

I'm not implying that the example in this discussion is real, just saying there are really nice "real deal" protecto-plates out there so I don't feel seeing a nice one is a cause for alarm.  Besides, if someone wanted to go as far as to make a fake one (and people do) there are ways to make them look "aged" if one wanted to.


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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 04:24:31 PM »
I agree as far as age goes. My protect-o-plate looks similar as far as age goes. I also have another for my 66 Chevelle SS, and it is also in very nice condition.

The tape looked different on his. I have seen them with GM logo tape and with clear, his looks more like a goldish brown?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2016, 05:06:24 PM »
Austin,

I owe you one.. :)    I was reading your post where you mentioned 'GM logo tape'.. and I'm wondering .. What is he talking about??   

So I dug thru my piles of records (I have two original 1969 Protecto-plates)..  The one for the '69 Camaro does have the 'GM' tape (ie. clear tape with a few GM logos on it that I'd never noticed or paid attention to before)..  The other is for my '69 Corvette and it's owner info was on clear tape, but no GM logo.    Interesting.. :)
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2016, 05:09:32 PM »
And----An Engine Block Heater and Liquid Tire Chain-in Florida???

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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2016, 05:13:14 PM »
And----An Engine Block Heater and Liquid Tire Chain-in Florida???

maybe they were 'snow birds'..  :)
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Re: 1969 Z/28 Paperwork? 124379N666321
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2016, 09:41:02 PM »
The window sticker is clearly fake. With a stamp on it saying upgrade to 427??? A dealer made up that stamp because many customers asked??
The POP looks reasonable other than the extra digit in the VIN.
Order form looks reasonable except for the 427 written in.
So the set could be real and someone swung for the bleachers and made up the WS. Who knows, but it's tainted now...
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