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« on: December 17, 2006, 08:05:04 PM »

Recently purchased 69 Z-28.VIN is 124379N528026.Cowl tag is as follows:   ST   69   12437 NOR158499   BDY  TR   711        79  79    PNT  &  10D(4th week of oct/1968).I understand X codes at Norwood did not start until Dec./68.Engine is correct block stamp(3970010),intake is correct(3932472) but front pad # is CEB1244.Tranny is muncie/21 (P9B40B),12 bolt is 3894860NF with date (J 38).I love this car regardless but is there any way to prove or disprove its badges?    Thanks,   DEEJAY
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2006, 11:16:07 PM »

It looks as if you have a CE warranty replacement block. You are missing a few characters in the code including the year position. The Muncie assembly code does not look correct maybe you have mixed up the numbers? First take another look at your codes and also include the cast date of the block. You are correct that this cowl tag is too early for an X code identifying it as a Z28. The original engine assembly code with a supporting vin would have been another avenue to "prove" it as a Z. Supporting original paperwork is also a source of documentation. You're happy with the car who do you have to "prove" it to  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 05:28:35 PM »

What's the axle code (stamped on the tube)?
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 07:09:26 PM »

THERE IS A COUPLE OF # FOLLOWING FRONT BLOCK STAMP,(2  Cool.I GAVE INCORRECT MUNCIE #,CORRECT IS P9B408.AXLE CODE IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE OUT.WHAT I  SEE IS (BS-1011)?  THANKS MUCH FOR REPLY
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 04:22:32 PM »

P9B408 - still incorrect. Muncie, 1969 model year, 40th day of Feb, M21
No worries, it's too late to be original to the car anyway.

BS-1011 - 3.31 posi, built 10/11. Looks original to the car.

1 or 2 fuel lines?
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 06:09:02 PM »

FINALLY CORRECT TRANY # P9B10B.PURCHASED CAR FROM A LOCAL WHO BOUGHT CAR IN 1998.FOUND AN OLD INVOICE IN TRUNK WITH PREVIOUS OWNER NAME AND MADE CONTACT LAST NIGHT.HE PURCHASED IN 1978 AS A Z-28.SAID HE STILL HAS ORIGINAL FUEL LINES AND REALLY FILLED ME IN ON CAR.I'M NOT A COMPUTER GUY BUT I REALLY PRAISE THE LORD I FOUND THIS WEB SITE,YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW YOUR STUFF! THANKS MUCH FOR ANY & ALL INFO.     DEEJAY
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 07:21:57 PM »

2ND NOTE;    JUST CHECKED OUT FUEL LINE,HAS ONE FROM TANK TO PUMP.LOOKS TO BE APPROX 3/8 INCH
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 04:22:41 PM »

Deejay
Turn you cap lock off
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 07:07:51 PM »

Not a computer guy.......Thanks!
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2006, 06:34:03 PM »

Has the car been restored yet?
If not what color is under the wiper cowl... down where you can see the wiper linkage?
Also where does the speedo cable come out of the firewall?
Does it have disc brakes?
If not... does it have disc brake A arms? (sometimes drag racers removed discs and installed drums for less drag)
What does the hole look like that was cut in the floor for the shifter?
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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2006, 12:38:49 PM »

Yes car was restored probaly in mid to late 80's.
Color under cowl is black satin
Car has no speedo cable nor did I see area in firewall(above pedals) for one?
Car does have front disc brakes(GM)
Shifter hole is approx 3" wide X 5 3/4" long with round corners
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2006, 09:53:40 AM »

see if there is a hole in the firewall to the left and above (when looking at the firewall from the engine compartment) where the accelerator linkage comes through.  This would be the Muncie Speedometer cable location.
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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2006, 11:55:24 AM »

There is a 1" hole located about 5" above accelerator linkage.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2006, 10:01:42 AM »

BINGO... that indicates a Muncie transmission... or at least someone knew enough to put the hole in the approx correct location.

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James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
 
Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2006, 01:23:42 PM »

Thanks much for info.I find the entire process quite interesting.
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 08:57:40 PM »

I doubt that it was originally a Z.
3.31 is the standard ratio for a SS350/4 speed car. 3.73 for a Z.
A 3.31 in a Z would just about be undriveable and a special order to boot.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 09:50:11 PM »

Never thought about it but makes perfect sense to me.
Thanks Kurt.Starting Total restore,will be posting entire process /photos
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2007, 12:24:22 AM »

I had a 69 Z with a 3.08 rear, it truly was a pain to drive in town.  Out on the highway though......
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