Interior restoration

[asm69]

Who makes the best interior floor carpet and standard front door panels for a restoration. Early built (Oct 1968) 1969 Z28 with 711 black interior. I have the original two piece carpet, a little worn, would like to replace. My standard door panels also are original, but the original owner installed speakers in the door panel.

Thanks.

[dale_z28]

In my opinion, YearOne has good carpet and HeartbeatCity has good door panels, if you spring for the top-quality versions. I'm not saying other sources aren't as good, I'm speaking from my experience, I purchased these two items at these businesses

[HawkX66]

I went with ACC after doing a lot of research. I didn’t have to trim the sides. They fit perfectly from the get go. Of course you need to trim a few spots like by the kick panels though. Check out RockAuto.com. They were the best price. John ($vegas69) over on Camaros.net had a code for something like $20 off too.
Here’s a couple shots of mine:

[68camaroz28]

Who makes the best interior floor carpet and standard front door panels for a restoration. Early built (Oct 1968) 1969 Z28 with 711 black interior. I have the original two piece carpet, a little worn, would like to replace. My standard door panels also are original, but the original owner installed speakers in the door panel.

Thanks.

Have your original door panes re-done by Al Knoch Interiors. They will re-use the metal part which will enhance fit. Year One only sells carpet made by someone else as does Heartbeat who sells PUK door panels I believe. I only bring that up as your asking who makes the best and neither of them make those products.  Agree ACC is the route to go but buy the heavy version (yes they have a second type) and it has more backing and lays out nicer. I have ACC in our 68Z restoration....

[abiddle]

That carpet looks nice Dave. I don't know why I don't think to ask these same questions. I've ordered my new carpet from Rick's and I hope I'm not disappointed.

[HawkX66]

Agree ACC is the route to go but buy the heavy version (yes they have a second type) and it has more backing and lays out nicer. I have ACC in our 68Z restoration....

I heard the same thing after ordering mine. I went without the mass backing because I was going with sound deadener. My understanding is that wouldn't matter and you should still get the mass backing. Luckily I'm still happy with mine...

That carpet looks nice Dave. I don't know why I don't think to ask these same questions. I've ordered my new carpet from Rick's and I hope I'm not disappointed.

Thanks a lot. Rick's is just a re-seller like the rest of them. Do you know what brand they're sending you?

[abiddle]

That carpet looks nice Dave. I don't know why I don't think to ask these same questions. I've ordered my new carpet from Rick's and I hope I'm not disappointed.

Thanks a lot. Rick's is just a re-seller like the rest of them. Do you know what brand they're sending you?

Company is trimparts in Lebanon Oh. I just opened the box.

[HawkX66]

That carpet looks nice Dave. I don't know why I don't think to ask these same questions. I've ordered my new carpet from Rick's and I hope I'm not disappointed.

Thanks a lot. Rick's is just a re-seller like the rest of them. Do you know what brand they're sending you?

Company is trimparts in Lebanon Oh. I just opened the box.

Here's the thread I was talking about. Lots of good info...
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=358169&highlight=carpet

[Spooky]

My ACC carpet should be here tomorrow. I also ordered it from Rockauto.com for 166 +15 for shipping.. I did get the Mass backing. It was a no brainer. I think we are all at the same place on our restos

Scott

[asm69]

Was looking at my carpet and I noticed that the sound deadening was fibrous and light brown in color.
Also noticed the the front carpet had a rectangular cutout where the floor console mounts to the floor.
Does anyone have a similar finding with their front floor carpet?

[HawkX66]

Was looking at my carpet and I noticed that the sound deadening was fibrous and light brown in color.
Also noticed the the front carpet had a rectangular cutout where the floor console mounts to the floor.
Does anyone have a similar finding with their front floor carpet?

Is this your original one or one you bought? If it's your original one then yes you should have a cut out. You have to cut the hole yourself on a/m. Make sure you use a pick to find the seat belt bolt holes etc and a soldering iron to punch the hole. Be real careful on cutting out the shifter hole and singe it when you're done. You'll need a cut out for the front console mount bracket also. That should be mounted directly to the floor.

[asm69]

Yes, it is my original floor carpet. As I said, the sound deadener is attached to the bottom side of the carpet and appears fibrous. I also have what appears to be the original floor mats.

When ordering new carpet should I get the Mass backing? Is the standard sound deadener good enough?
 
asm69

[HawkX66]

Yes, it is my original floor carpet. As I said, the sound deadener is attached to the bottom side of the carpet and appears fibrous. I also have what appears to be the original floor mats.

When ordering new carpet should I get the Mass backing? Is the standard sound deadener good enough?
 
asm69

Yes. You should get the mass backing according to what others have said. I did not. Take a look at the link I posted above. It'll probably answer a lot of questions you didn't know you had. Sound deadener isn't a one liner answer other than it was good enough in '69. It all depends on your needs. If you do a quick search on it, you'll find all kinds of information. If you have a specific question after that, post it up and I'm sure someone will be happy to answer.

[69Z28-RS]

Was looking at my carpet and I noticed that the sound deadening was fibrous and light brown in color.
Also noticed the the front carpet had a rectangular cutout where the floor console mounts to the floor.
Does anyone have a similar finding with their front floor carpet?

I removed/replaced my original '69 Camaro carpet about 14-15 yrs ago, and that is what I remember.. a heavy 'brown colored'  insulation material between the carpet and the floor.  I think there are some detailed threads here (or maybe on TC?) with photos.. but it sounds like your carpet/floor insulation was the factory stuff..

[asm69]

Wanted to post pictures of original carpet, carpet backing and carpet mats. (1 of 2)

[asm69]

(2 of 2)

[69Z28-RS]

What are we looking at with that photo labeled 'rear carpet backing'  What is the 'blue' part?   that doesn't trigger my memory as looking like 'factory original' to me....??

[HawkX66]

What are we looking at with that photo labeled 'rear carpet backing'  What is the 'blue' part?   that doesn't trigger my memory as looking like 'factory original' to me....??

The long slits go under the front seats. The small notches towards the bottom go around the rear seat front hooks. 

[asm69]

The "rearCarpetBackingjpg.jpg" picture is the rear carpet turned upside down showing the fibrous material attached to the back side of the carpet. The blue tint may be due taking the picture this morning. The picture of the same rear carpet from the top was blurred so I did not post it.

There is a layer of insulation on the floor boards of the car. They have a cardboard type of material and are black in color.

[firstgenaddict]

Did your front carpet set have HD velcro to attach the halves together in front of the console?







The binding on this 04C car did not go all the way across on either side, it was not there between the seta bolts.






Jute on the back of heavy TARBOARD, the jute goes toward the floor.

[asm69]

I don't think I have the Velcro piece to hold the front of the carpet pieces together. I was wondering about the front carpet being in two pieces, I thought the original owner may have torn in, now I know it is not torn. It looks like that the original front carpet came as two pieces for console installations and the rear carpet as one piece.

[HawkX66]

I don't think I have the Velcro piece to hold the front of the carpet pieces together. I was wondering about the front carpet being in two pieces, I thought the original owner may have torn in, now I know it is not torn. It looks like that the original front carpet came as two pieces for console installations and the rear carpet as one piece.

No, the front was a single piece and the rear was a second single piece.

James, is that your original shifter boot trim ring? The one in my picture is my original. They look very different.

[asm69]

"SgtHawkUSMC" if you look at "firstgenaddict" first picture, you will see his comment and picture the indicates that the front pieces are held together by velcro. My front carpet is also two pieces, but I dont see the velcro part on my front carpet. I will have to look to see if it fell somewhere, or is lost.

[HawkX66]

"SgtHawkUSMC" if you look at "firstgenaddict" first picture, you will see his comment and picture the indicates that the front pieces are held together by velcro. My front carpet is also two pieces, but I dont see the velcro part on my front carpet. I will have to look to see if it fell somewhere, or is lost.

They are split at the front to make installation of the console easier, but the rest of the carpet isn't split in half right? When I think two piece, I think two halves/pieces that can separate. I think the only reason his separated behind the shifter is because it ripped. I don't think they came in two separate pieces.

[asm69]

My front carpet is in two pieces. I thought maybe the original owner or I accidentally split the rear portion of the front carpet. For sure, my front carpet is in two pieces the left side and right side. Maybe "firstgenaddict"
can comment whether his front carpet is in two pieces as well.

[asm69]

If you look at my posted picture of the front carpet you can see the front carpet split at the rear.

[HawkX66]

My front carpet is in two pieces. I thought maybe the original owner or I accidentally split the rear portion of the front carpet. For sure, my front carpet is in two pieces the left side and right side. Maybe "firstgenaddict"
can comment whether his front carpet is in two pieces as well.

Interesting. I've never heard of the front being in two pieces. Only a back half and a front half.

[asm69]

 I would like to hear from 69Z28-RS and firstgenaddict regarding whether their front carpets were completely split into left front and right front carpets. I think if others could comment on this post it may lead to some interesting information. Especially during the restoration process.

[firstgenaddict]

Yes completely split, everyone 69 original carpet I have personally seen in console cars has been completely split.

The Black Z 04C X33 Carpet was JAN dated  with Velcro
The last one was a 12C X66 conv. Carpet was APRIL 68 dated.  Without Velcro

[asm69]

Thanks for the information.

Where did you find the date code for the carpet?

Should new carpet installations be modified to match GM specifications or just update the carpet with the one piece front carpet?

[69Z28-RS]

Yes completely split, everyone 69 original carpet I have personally seen in console cars has been completely split.

The Black Z 04C X33 Carpet was JAN dated  with Velcro
The last one was a 12C X66 conv. Carpet was APRIL 68 dated.  Without Velcro

I replaced my original carpet around 15 yrs ago.  Unless my memory is totally failing me, neither the front nor the rear carpet was 'split' into a LH and RH halves.  Nor was the ACC reproduction replacement carpet split into two halves (and I KNOW I would have compared the replacement to the original).  I think I kept the original carpet; I'll have to check my shop.   Also, as I recall, there was either a tag on the bottom of the carpet with the date (or it was stamped)...?   again, my memory is not clear on that until I do some digging.

PS.  When I removed my original carpet, I found UNDER it.. directly under the steering wheel, a original key wtih the numbered punch out still in it...  After a moment of confusion (WHY was this here??), I tried the key in the ignition and it fit/worked perfectly...    If anyone wants to see an unused (basically) factory original key, I'll get a photograph of it..

Gary

[firstgenaddict]

It's because the front carpet set and steering column were both installed at Chevrolet Assembly not at Fisher.

[X33RS]

Yes completely split, everyone 69 original carpet I have personally seen in console cars has been completely split.

The Black Z 04C X33 Carpet was JAN dated  with Velcro
The last one was a 12C X66 conv. Carpet was APRIL 68 dated.  Without Velcro

I replaced my original carpet around 15 yrs ago.  Unless my memory is totally failing me, neither the front nor the rear carpet was 'split' into a LH and RH halves.  Nor was the ACC reproduction replacement carpet split into two halves (and I KNOW I would have compared the replacement to the original).  I think I kept the original carpet; I'll have to check my shop.   Also, as I recall, there was either a tag on the bottom of the carpet with the date (or it was stamped)...?   again, my memory is not clear on that until I do some digging.

PS.  When I removed my original carpet, I found UNDER it.. directly under the steering wheel, a original key wtih the numbered punch out still in it...  After a moment of confusion (WHY was this here??), I tried the key in the ignition and it fit/worked perfectly...    If anyone wants to see an unused (basically) factory original key, I'll get a photograph of it..

Gary

Gary,
Just looked at my original carpet still in the car and sure enough, the front carpet section is split, and I can see the Velcro that James is talking about right in front of the console.

[asm69]

Hi X33RS,
If its not too much work could you look and see if the carpet is split in the rear as well. If enough people posted whom have a 1969 camaro with the original carpet and factory console, maybe the information could be compiled to indicate another fact regarding production. As I said, my carpet is split in the front and rear, essentially, left front carpet, right right carpet and rear carpet.

[firstgenaddict]

Carpet date tag... on rear section,

location - directly under the front of the drivers seat stapled to the rear carpet.

[X33RS]

Hi X33RS,
If its not too much work could you look and see if the carpet is split in the rear as well. If enough people posted whom have a 1969 camaro with the original carpet and factory console, maybe the information could be compiled to indicate another fact regarding production. As I said, my carpet is split in the front and rear, essentially, left front carpet, right right carpet and rear carpet.

I can, when I get to that point I planned to remove the interior for cleaning. 

[69Z28-RS]

...
I can, when I get to that point I planned to remove the interior for cleaning. 

Do you have a process, or any suggestions, for cleaning the houndstooth upholstery?  my back seat has little to no wear, but it seens faded just a tad, which might be due to 46 yrs of dust imbedded in the material.  I wouldn't want to remove the upholstery from the seats, but what means are there for cleaning a seat as removed from a vehicle without damage to the originality?   Anyone?

[Kelley W King]

Back in the 70,s I bought a new Caprice which my wife spilled sweet tea on the front seat on the maiden trip. The cheverolet dealer had a rattle can of cleaner that worked. If I remember correctly it was a white powder (damp or wet) that you sprayed on and brushed in and brushed off when dry. It worked. It had GM on the can.

[X33RS]

I remember all that GM stuff in a can when I worked at dealers during my younger years    White cans, black lettering, and they had a can for everything you could imagine, lol.

Gary I use a mixture of stuff and a lot of elbow grease.  I like the foamy carpet cleaners (smells good) used with a very soft plastic bristle brush and very light pressure on the cloth inserts.  I also like Spot Shot on the stubborn stains.  I'll use a shop vac to suck them dry, but here in Arizona it doesn't take long for things to dry, so sitting in the garage for an hour does it.  I try not to get them too wet though.  In a humid climate it might be more of a challenge.
  There are probably better methods but good ole' fassion scrubbing works for me.  My wife also has a battery powered rotary scrub brush with plastic bristles that I absolutely love using on the carpets and stuff, but she gets mad when I sneak that out to the garage for car stuff 

[ban617]

What about using Simple Green cleaner I think it's biodegradable ....

[firstgenaddict]

...
I can, when I get to that point I planned to remove the interior for cleaning. 

Do you have a process, or any suggestions, for cleaning the houndstooth upholstery?  my back seat has little to no wear, but it seens faded just a tad, which might be due to 46 yrs of dust imbedded in the material.  I wouldn't want to remove the upholstery from the seats, but what means are there for cleaning a seat as removed from a vehicle without damage to the originality?   Anyone?

You are going to have to go the extraction route to really clean them.
I too imagine the HT is extremely dirty...







IT is not easy to REALLY CLEAN the interiors of these cars, the plasticisers leech out of the parts which causes the stickiness on some parts.

[HawkX66]

IT is not easy to REALLY CLEAN the interiors of these cars, the plasticisers leech out of the parts which causes the stickiness on some parts.
[/quote]
I was wondering what that was. The headlight switch on my truck constantly gets a little gooey. I clean it real well and it comes back. I figured I had gas on my hands and touched it or something. Luckily none of my interior on the 69 seems to be like that.

[Kelley W King]

My brothers car had a plastic steering with a vinyl look grain. Never could get the sticky off it.

[z28z11]

My local Chevrolet dealer used carbon tetrachloride on the interior of my '85 Z when we picked it up from detailing, new - had a big ink stain on the headliner where somebody had tucked something behind the visor with a pen in his hand - most amazing thing I ever witnessed. The stain just evaporated, never left a mark, nor did it discolor anything. I guess that's why you can't find carbon tet anymore because it worked (plus it's pretty poisonous).

Local Ziebart shop autoclaved the drivers side front seat after a chance episode with a cat getting in the car - that was exceptional also. I did remove the broadcast copy from the seat springs before I took it in - wish I was as fortunate in finding my X77's like that.

I have always used a combination of Windex and Armor All on my vinyl First Gens - always works.

Regards,
Steve

[KurtS]

Alan,
Can you also post a pic of the backside of the front carpet?
Thanks!

[cook_dw]

The green car has 2 tags on the front carpet section..  I need to look and see if its split all the way..  I know it is in front of the console just not sure behind the shifter..

[asm69]

Kurt S,

Here are the pics of the backside of the front carpet.

1 of 1.

[asm69]

Kurt S,

Front carpet driver side back.

[asm69]

Kurt S,

Passenger side carpet back

[firstgenaddict]

ASM I see your carpets do not have the edge binding between the center of the seat either....

[asm69]

That is correct, edge binding just at rear of front carpet. I was thinking of ordering the front carpet through Classic Industries. I can get the front carpet with the jute backing attached to the carpet and get the sound deadener separately. That is how my front carpet is configured. Sound deadener still on floor boards, except passenger side. I may have removed that for some reason.

Not sure if I should get the Mass backing option if I plan to use carpet with Jute backing and sound deadener.

[asm69]

Went to the local restoration re-seller. Compared "Distinctive" front door panels to my originals. The differences I noticed was that the door lock knob ferrule on the "Distinctive" door panel was larger than the original. I also noticed that the door panel material was one piece on the "Distinctive" brand. On my original door panels, it appears that the chrome horizontal trim towards the top of the panel assists in hiding the seam created by GM using two pieces of trim material on the door panels.

Do any of the other manufacturers (PUI, Legandary, Al Knoch, ...) use two pieces of material on their door panels. See pics.

[KurtS]

I wouldn't sweat the 2-piece. What matters to me is: the fit and not puffy.

[asm69]

So, would "distinctive" be just as good as pui, oer, or legendary for the fit. I only looked at the "Distinctive" brand, it looked okay to me, don't know about the fit.

If anyone has a comment on who to avoid, I would appreciate it.

And I do realize that which ever one I purchase its an improvement with what I have.

thanks again.

[Fred Mertz]

My '69 still has the original carpet.  The car was originally a floor shifted TH350 w/console.  I added the console gauges when installing the 4 speed.

The front carpet piece only has a slit for the carpet to fit over the console mounting bracket and a hole cut out for the "Horseshoe" shifter assy. where it bolts to the console tunnel.

[dale_z28]

I ordered door panels from Heartbeat City and they were supposedly best-quality. From an appearance standpoint, I would agree, except they don't include the "Camaro" emblem that's glued above the armrests. Anyway, both sides required extensive trimming to fit. The right (passenger) side needed approximately 1/2" inch trimmed off on both ends and the bottom. Funny thing, when we peeled back the vinyl after marking it for our cut-line, there was a line marked on the backing board, plus it had been "slit" (think: perforated) exactly where we needed it trimmed! Duh! Looks like they knew how to make them, they just didn't. The panels came cut exactly to fit the overall size of the door(shell) inner surface, which of course won't clear when you try to close the door. Drivers door had all it's excess toward the front. Just my .02

[firstgenaddict]

If they just look dingy...clean them using minimal pressure and a soft bristled brush along with SPRAY AWAY non ammonia window cleaner.



Minimal pressure and a new brush is the KEY!

When you use too much pressure the tips of the brush roll over and will not penetrate into the grain. It honestly will take a few hours to clean one seat, one door panel etc.

[X33RS]

Hi X33RS,
If its not too much work could you look and see if the carpet is split in the rear as well. If enough people posted whom have a 1969 camaro with the original carpet and factory console, maybe the information could be compiled to indicate another fact regarding production. As I said, my carpet is split in the front and rear, essentially, left front carpet, right right carpet and rear carpet.

Hi X33RS,
If its not too much work could you look and see if the carpet is split in the rear as well. If enough people posted whom have a 1969 camaro with the original carpet and factory console, maybe the information could be compiled to indicate another fact regarding production. As I said, my carpet is split in the front and rear, essentially, left front carpet, right right carpet and rear carpet.

ASM, I finally got around to removing my console and sure enough the front and rear sections of the front carpet are split, with the front held together with Velcro.
  I have not removed the seats yet but will in the next few weeks and plan to remove the carpet for cleaning.  I'm curious to see a dated tag on the bottom side.

[JKZ27]

Went to the local restoration re-seller. Compared "Distinctive" front door panels to my originals. The differences I noticed was that the door lock knob ferrule on the "Distinctive" door panel was larger than the original. I also noticed that the door panel material was one piece on the "Distinctive" brand. On my original door panels, it appears that the chrome horizontal trim towards the top of the panel assists in hiding the seam created by GM using two pieces of trim material on the door panels.

Do any of the other manufacturers (PUI, Legandary, Al Knoch, ...) use two pieces of material on their door panels. See pics.

I got a set of "unassembled" standard door and rear panels for my 68 from Legendary a few years ago. They came with no trim, emblems or metal top piece but there was enough vinyl to stretch over the top once I installed my original. I, too, noticed that the original panels, and the ones on my 69, had a separate piece of vinyl that was overlapped under the chrome trim and I wanted to put it back that way. I was able to trim the excess off with a straight edge, where the chrome goes, and then lay the cut off piece down with adhesive over the lower vinyl and poke the trim spikes through it so the seam ended up under the trim. Turned out nice. I don't know if the assembled panels come with two piece vinyl. I just know I would have never been totally happy without the seam knowing it was there originally.

[asm69]

JKZ27, I saw a pair of PUI 69 door panels. They did not have the vinyl seam. The vinyl was all one piece. They
looked great but not two piece vinyl.

[firstgenaddict]

The reason why they are 2 pieces of covering is the uppers are actually Vinyl and the lower sections are "leatherette" paper. which is steamed then press adhered to the backers. Steam is also how corrugated paper is "fluted" with the waves in the center of the brown paper boxes.

[asm69]

firstgenaddict, Is that why the lower sections of my original door panels have no cushion? When I press on the lower door panel section where the horizontal pleats are I don,t feel any cushion, just the backing. The PUI door panels I saw had a cushioned feel on the lower section pleats. I am wondering does anyone make 69 door panels that don't have cushioned lower section pleats.

[firstgenaddict]

firstgenaddict, Is that why the lower sections of my original door panels have no cushion? When I press on the lower door panel section where the horizontal pleats are I don,t feel any cushion, just the backing. The PUI door panels I saw had a cushioned feel on the lower section pleats. I am wondering does anyone make 69 door panels that don't have cushioned lower section pleats.

YES, Exactly...
the reason I happen to know the material is that I sold a couple hundred tons of RED leatherette to the Far east about 7 years ago.

[JKZ27]

Thanks James. That's good info.
Legendary did a nice job with their panels. They're tight, vinyl of course, and not padded. If I get a chance I'll post a pic.

[asm69]

Like to see a list vendors whose 69 standard door panels do not have the lower section padded (EG. Distinctive, Legendary, ...). I know PUI are padded and very nice looking.

[firstgenaddict]

I wish someone would use leatherette paper in the reproductions, the reason I suspect they have not is because it requires steam to press them out.

[Hans L]

Here's the front carpet from my '69.  Delux Interior (713), Console/gauge car.  04C build, Van Nuys.  Pretty sure it's the original carpet as it still had the OEM vendor tag attached when I removed it.    It came out in two pieces so I am assuming two pieces is correct for a '69 with console/gauges?

OEM Vendor Tag - note is was attached to the underside of the carpet, PASS side.

[firstgenaddict]

firstgenaddict, Is that why the lower sections of my original door panels have no cushion? When I press on the lower door panel section where the horizontal pleats are I don,t feel any cushion, just the backing. The PUI door panels I saw had a cushioned feel on the lower section pleats. I am wondering does anyone make 69 door panels that don't have cushioned lower section pleats.

If you tear a door panel apart there are blocks of paper door panel material which are die cut then glued into position where ever the raised sections are positioned, the distinct angles which are sharp is because the leatherette is pressed down to the lower area over a raised block the angle begins where the block ends, the angular area is actually hollow the blocks have sharp edges.

[asm69]

Hans L - Like your comments. It appears that original 1969 camaro's with a factory console received a front carpet that was left front and right front. In this discussion z28's were discussed. Is it  fair to say that if an original 1969 z28 came with a factory floor console then the front carpet should be in two pieces. Another interesting fact that may assist in vehicle verification.

[X33RS]

Well,  I can tell you my 69 Z28 is a factory console car and also has it's original split front carpet, with a piece of Velcro that holds the 2 halves together right above the console.

[Hans L]

Well,  I can tell you my 69 Z28 is a factory console car and also has it's original split front carpet, with a piece of Velcro that holds the 2 halves together right above the console.

No Velcro on the carpet halves I pulled from my car, but could be a different supplier than who provided the carpet to your car.  Allen Industries out of Compton, CA was the supplier for the carpet in my car.

Two halves should make the carpet installation an easier job and permits installing the console first then carpet.

[X33RS]

Could be different supplier.  I know a few months back we were talking about this and it may have been William or James (memory escapes me) who also found Velcro on his original carpet as well.  I think they were trying to determine build dates etc..   Not sure if they concluded this was an early build thing or a plant thing or what.  I lost track of the thread.   I can tell you mine is a 12D Norwood car though.

[ban617]

I have a question on original front seats , it's like the thread / stiching has come out of the seams can they be resewn they have no tears just the thread gave up ...

[firstgenaddict]

I have a question on original front seats , it's like the thread / stiching has come out of the seams can they be resewn they have no tears just the thread gave up ...

Yes... many of us have had seats restitched on the seams

[KJProX]

Wow what an enlightening thread. All this time I had thought my 09D build '69 RS center console and 4spd car had a cheap carpet put in in the '80's or someone hacked up the original when they reinstalled it. Looked like had not taken the time to unbolt seat brackets and such because of the long slits under the seat tracks in the rear carpet and the split front carpet. Looks like it might be the original carpet after all, be interesting when I take it out to replace it.

[asm69]

More proof that your vehicle is authentic.

[KJProX]

Got home tonight and went right to the shop. My carpet is split and has the Velcro in front of the console, and is missing the binding in front of the front seat track bolts. So now I'm sure when I pull it out I'll find a date code tag that is correct. Unfortunately it's not in good enough shape to just clean and put back, needs to be replaced.

Some dirty Velcro.