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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2016, 02:35:49 AM »
they were nice except above the axle. I dont know if the guy lived on or near a gravel road or what. It was pretty scaley.No holes but wasnt going to get any better. I would have thought it would have received a good coat of primer there so must have been another cause. I think it was in a pole barn and unheated garage all its life too.if not for above the axle I would have left the bottom.
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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2016, 02:58:50 AM »
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When was yours built Gary?    Based on what you're car has, I wouldn't be surprised when I pull the gas tank if mine is also grey in that area, since I'm seeing grey on the last 12" of rear frame rail and the trunk drop offs.
  My entire rear wheel houses are green, even facing up at the top, then blacked it out with sound deadener. 
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My car is a HO (high output Hugger Orange :) .. :)     and yes a couple of spots of the rear wheelhouse undercoating have come off and under it is HO body color.   My car was completed/shipped on 18Sep1969.
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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2016, 04:33:37 AM »
Granted this isnt a 69 but to show the undercarriage phospate, primer and paint overspray.













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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2016, 10:54:08 AM »
they were nice except above the axle. I dont know if the guy lived on or near a gravel road or what. It was pretty scaley.No holes but wasnt going to get any better. I would have thought it would have received a good coat of primer there so must have been another cause. I think it was in a pole barn and unheated garage all its life too.if not for above the axle I would have left the bottom.

Above my tank showed "trace" at most of primer. If the car actually saw Ohio winters, (or any road salt at all) trunk pan would have been long gone. Same as you, car has always been inside storage, no rain/snow. I had no corrosion issues underneath. Under the goop found lots of trace body color under outer areas of floor pan through to outer rear frame rails. Gray trans tunnel, Red oxide rear frame rails/rear. black. Must of looked like a mess off the line-- to each there own. If you search, almost positive I posted some pics here. I'll post one last set of pics from under the car this weekend(shows trace) spring it's getting covered for good. I like Hawk's. Doing roof-rails, door glass this weekend.
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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2016, 12:42:09 PM »
Dave, your heater box cover appears top be the same satin/30% gloss as the firewall. It should be around 65-70% gloss, or gloss as it pertains to unpolished lacquer.

I've got an LOS 67 here with many runs in the tunnel, and heavy globs and drips elsewhere.

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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2016, 12:47:03 PM »
I didn't want to mention that to Dave since it looks like he put a lot of time in it already, but yeah the heater box should be a little more gloss, if you're going for that sort of restoration.
  Dave, looks good, I was only poking fun at these black floors.  I've always been more of a fan of something that has some contrast, that's all.  But it won't steer me away from doing it correctly, it is what it is.


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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2016, 12:47:53 PM »
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When was yours built Gary?    Based on what you're car has, I wouldn't be surprised when I pull the gas tank if mine is also grey in that area, since I'm seeing grey on the last 12" of rear frame rail and the trunk drop offs.
  My entire rear wheel houses are green, even facing up at the top, then blacked it out with sound deadener. 
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My car is a HO (high output Hugger Orange :) .. :)     and yes a couple of spots of the rear wheelhouse undercoating have come off and under it is HO body color.   My car was completed/shipped on 18Sep1969.


Wow Gary, our cars are almost a year apart.  I'm amazed at how similar they are.

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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2016, 12:55:00 PM »
Dave, your heater box cover appears top be the same satin/30% gloss as the firewall. It should be around 65-70% gloss, or gloss as it pertains to unpolished lacquer.

I've got an LOS 67 here with many runs in the tunnel, and heavy globs and drips elsewhere.
  Different brand but same topic, I'm finishing a restoration on a 69 Mach 1 for a customer.  San Jose plant built Feb 12th.  Very sloppy application throughout the engine compartment, runs everywhere, just looks like a rushed job down the assembly line.   In comparison, my own 69 SCJ Mach 1 was also built Feb 12th (what are the chances) but at Dearborn, an unrestored survivor, engine compartment was done much better and cleaner with no visual runs.  Another interesting tidbit, San Jose used red oxide on the floors, but Dearborn used "batch paint" so there are some vast differences with identical cars built at different plants.   Interesting stuff, even if it is just a ford, lol.
 

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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2016, 01:04:05 PM »
Dave, your heater box cover appears top be the same satin/30% gloss as the firewall. It should be around 65-70% gloss, or gloss as it pertains to unpolished lacquer.

I've got an LOS 67 here with many runs in the tunnel, and heavy globs and drips elsewhere.
I didn't want to mention that to Dave since it looks like he put a lot of time in it already, but yeah the heater box should be a little more gloss, if you're going for that sort of restoration.
  Dave, looks good, I was only poking fun at these black floors.  I've always been more of a fan of something that has some contrast, that's all.  But it won't steer me away from doing it correctly, it is what it is.


Couldn't that be considered a day two item? J/K... I'll eventually go back and get some of the details like that more correct. I guess you could call it a short cut for now. I probably should correct it the next time I have the fender off though which will be when the warmer weather returns. Thanks for the reminder. I did spend some time on it, but it's nothing to squirt a coat of semi gloss over it.
Mine is going to be a driver for quite a while. Someday I might go back and do a real resto with the floors the right color etc. Most things are going to be pretty close, but some finishes/platings won't be concourse correct.

My original paint must have faded or been painted over at some point. They look pretty close:



Then again... Here's a pic after I removed it and dusted if off. Not sure if those are factory runs or not.

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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2016, 01:18:22 PM »
Very cool Dave, love seeing the original stuff.   You're right, doesn't look very glossy to me in those shots.

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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2016, 09:58:25 PM »
Bill, try painting forward from the roof towards the front of the cowl. The white will stop at the bend of the cowl.
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Re: advice on painting cowl
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2016, 03:51:16 AM »









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