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EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« on: December 14, 2015, 12:00:48 AM »
EO Z28 is back at auction - estimate $225,000 to $275,000 :o

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/FL0116-229945/0/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/4-Speed/

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1969 Z28 302 290 DZ Dusk Blue
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 04:31:04 PM »
So is this an early build? I see AD wheels listed.
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 04:59:38 PM »
What makes it worth what they are expecting?
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 05:04:10 PM »
Really?

Who cares if it's for sale again?

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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 08:30:47 PM »
I think it is interesting how often it comes to auction. I wonder if Dana owns it, because I was pretty sure he owned the special paint carolina blue car( they were having trouble getting bids) , and they were trying to get about the same amount for it.
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2015, 12:06:19 AM »
Really?

Who cares if it's for sale again?



LOL..  When I saw this thread I thought..  Oh no not again..
« Last Edit: December 15, 2015, 12:33:53 AM by cook_dw »
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2015, 04:18:39 PM »
I just find it interesting how time seems to change things - a few years ago this car was the subject if extensive debate on the original colour actually being EO, was restored & sold on eBay for $59 k in 2014 & now is on the block for $225k.

I hope any potential buyer knows the history...

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1969 Z28 302 290 DZ Dusk Blue
1969 Trans Am 400 335 WQ Cameo White

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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2015, 04:35:31 PM »
Another interesting thing about the recent authentication of the car is both Jerrys report, and the affidavit of the dealer and original owner. I wonder how you present both those findings without it looking contradictory. Seems like you would have to go with one since there was not an agreement on the color. I think this car will continue to raise eye brows concerning the paint, and price for years to come.
 I don't see this car settling in to anyones collection...
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-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 05:12:13 PM »
I'm with you on your summary BULLITT :)
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2015, 06:53:44 PM »
I just find it interesting how time seems to change things - a few years ago this car was the subject if extensive debate on the original colour actually being EO, was restored & sold on eBay for $59 k in 2014 & now is on the block for $225k.

I hope any potential buyer knows the history...



I think for any potential buyer to know the history, all parties involved would have to be present at the auction.  Including the original owner, the dealer, as well as Jerry and anyone else involved in this car so they can all put their heads together and let the buyer draw a conclusion.  Otherwise I seriously doubt any potential buyer at a big auction is going to know much of anything about the history other than what the auction house discloses.   Most older people buying this stuff, including myself, don't spend a whole hell of a lot of time on the computer searching websites and chit chat about this or that.  Some people just don't have the time for it, among other things.  So even though the car has been talked about on the internet fairly extensively,  I'd be willing to bet there is an extremely small percentage of people that know about it.

Neat car though, don't care what color it is really, but it's a real Z and you don't need a bunch of paperwork to back that up (if it's an X-code car).  However I would be completely shocked if it brought anywhere near the money they hope to get, because there is nothing special about it other than this controversial color.   For that kind of money I could buy a couple of Hemi Cuda's, or 2-3 LS6 Chevelles, or just about anything big block and rare with low production numbers in any brand and still have cash in my pocket.  Hell even my SCJ wouldn't bring that kind of money and it's documented through Kevin Marti as one of just a handful.  But that's just me I guess.

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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015, 10:56:42 PM »
I don't think it will bring that kind of money either; that's just sellers/auctioneers trying to get rich off gullible buyers with more $$ than sense at these large tv collector car auctions.. :)    The controversy over the 'color' was just that, a difference of opinion between 'evaluators' 45 yrs later attempting to judge what color was sprayed at the factory, and the owner who paid for it to be done, and the salesman who wrote up the order for him.  The issue is whether it was actually evening orchid, OR another very similar GM color.  There is no issue as to the fact that it was a special order paint (I don't think.. it certainly isn't in my mind as the original owner told myself and several others many years ago that he had special ordered such a car for his wife - JohnZ was involved in that discussion at Carlisle Vettehead tent, many years before the car was found and restored).. :)

I do think it is a very special car due to the 'special order paint' (and the story behind it) which adds some value to its 'restored real Z28' value, but to me that 'extra value' would not be $150K..  :)   if you HATE the color, it might even be worth less than an equivalently restored red, orange, or silver car... :)
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015, 06:57:18 AM »
124379N546311 btw.
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015, 12:16:20 PM »
So this is a fairly early car Kurt....  Thanks for that.  It was probably listed I just didn't pay attention.

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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015, 02:24:00 PM »
So this is a fairly early car Kurt....  Thanks for that.  It was probably listed I just didn't pay attention.

Likely built on or about 21 November 1968... so the AD wheels would be correct.
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Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2015, 02:37:42 PM »
I'm an 11C with N540222. But I couldn't find any EO paint overspray on mine, my dreams of an early retirement are dashed.