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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2015, 04:49:44 AM »
James,
Yup, no reason, but they didn't offer V01 with a 396. GM docs are clear on this point.
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2015, 04:58:50 AM »
just sent you an email with all the L78 conv docs...
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« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2015, 12:52:19 PM »
Are there any other indicators that may have transferred to the 454 from original motor. Such as the CZ fan clutch and the deep groove pulleys? Will the original intake or water pump tell me anything

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« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2015, 02:45:58 PM »
Are there any other indicators that may have transferred to the 454 from original motor. Such as the CZ fan clutch and the deep groove pulleys? Will the original intake or water pump tell me anything
How do you know the intake, H2O pump are original to the car? or the CZ clutch fan and pulleys? Do they have swap meets out there where you live? It is a 46 Y.O. car. If the block did not stay with the car, what makes you sure that those mentioned items did?
 Best to advertise car as "believed" to be whatever you claim, than to insist with no evidence.
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #64 on: September 21, 2015, 03:56:27 PM »
Is the cooling fan stamped?
Distributor, alternator, carb numbers?
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2015, 04:46:56 PM »
Chevy continually revised Camaro ordering information, options and prices. The April 1, 1969 listing has this notation:

Axle, Positration Rear G80: Ratios 3.73 or 4.10...also includes HD radiator.....$56.90.

The manner in which it is listed is confusing as it includes 'Special Performance Equipment' and mentions '396 engine' without mentioning L34, L35, L78.

The Canadian Price Schedule is more succinct:

Axle, Positration Rear with 3.73 or 4.10 less C60 (includes V01).

So at some point after April 1 ordering a 396 with 3.73 or 4.10 positration axle (posi required with those ratios) included HD cooling at extra cost. Must have even confused Chevy as some later COPOs list G80 @ $56.90 on documents, some do not list G80 at all.





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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2015, 04:55:33 PM »
Chevy continually revised Camaro ordering information, options and prices. The April 1, 1969 listing has this notation:

Axle, Positration Rear G80: Ratios 3.73 or 4.10...also includes HD radiator.....$56.90.

The manner in which it is listed is confusing as it includes 'Special Performance Equipment' and mentions '396 engine' without mentioning L34, L35, L78.

The Canadian Price Schedule is more succinct:

Axle, Positration Rear with 3.73 or 4.10 less C60 (includes V01).

So at some point after April 1 ordering a 396 with 3.73 or 4.10 positration axle (posi required with those ratios) included HD cooling at extra cost. Must have even confused Chevy as some later COPOs list G80 @ $56.90 on documents, some do not list G80 at all.





Exactly what I have seen on original docs. Some COPOs with the 56.90 G80 charge, although the ECL code is different than on the 4.10 non HD units. (EXPECTED)
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2015, 05:25:23 PM »
Several other factors affected the ECL for a 4.10 axle; at this time I have 9.

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2015, 10:04:47 PM »
maybe its really a six cylinder car and someone cloned it :P

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2015, 10:38:04 PM »
Nobody is saying its a clone.

You are in the same boat as a lot of other guys. Non-original engine, non-original transmission and no docs.

Have tried to go through the "clues" to see where they went. Did you look at the cross member?

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2015, 11:42:49 PM »
What will I find with the cross member other than it being BB specific?

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #71 on: September 22, 2015, 02:10:42 AM »
What will I find with the cross member other than it being BB specific?

The access hole where the bolts go into the trans mount has a corner knocked off... not completely square... yours is correct from the picture you provided.
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2015, 02:13:41 AM »
Is the cooling fan stamped?
Distributor, alternator, carb numbers?

Distributor ? Correct and coded '499 would be a great clue - even though you can't rule out a swap meet find. Buying one outright is pretty cost prohibitive nowadays.

Ever look on top of the tank, just in case ? Under seats, behind rear seat, inside doors, behind (in) the quarter window openings, under front driver's seat springs ? Look under the carpet, under dash, too. Rare to find any broadcast copies (especially in Norwood production), but you never know when you might get lucky -

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2015, 02:16:33 AM »
1)Drop the tank. Last time I will advise this. 2) Go to the widow of the deceased owner and ask if she has any paper work that may be relevant to this car.
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2015, 03:39:50 AM »
Somehow I missed the cross member pic posted earlier. Yes looks like the right one for big block.

Check for paperwork in the car and from previous owners family as others advised.
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