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Fair Market Value
« on: September 16, 2015, 07:20:35 PM »
I'm just gonna throw this out to all you Camaro folks....
I would like to know what my cars value is. !969 RS/SS 396 L78 (less the L78) but, now has a 1970 LS6 454 in it's place. It has all the (performance) options in car according to CRG.
M21 close ratio, 12 bolt posi 3.73, 3 row radiator UY,IO,OO, NO A/C, manual steering box, CZ fan clutch, BB heater box, cowl hood, front disc brakes, prop. valves, multi leafs, and NO Rust, No Dents, less than 750 miles on professionally built motor.
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 08:13:20 PM »
A lot depends on color.  a H.O. car greatly increases it's value, whereas some colors, like G.R. on a 69, well, those cars are only good for washout/erosion bank filler?! :-X







































Seriously, this is very hard to determine because of the quality of the body/paint  if it was reworked? is it an untouched, original paint? is it a 'frame off'?, is it a 20 footer(or more :o)? Does the paint have noticeable flaws? were repro panels used? GM sheet metal? Is it a conglomeration of the past 30 years of repro parts and added options (some don't care if it is)?
Probably the only other 3 factors, to me, are: 1) Is it structurally sound? 2) is there solid proof the car is as you claim (docs)? 3) Does the car have curb appeal, like the right stance, look 'Killer'?
Without seeing, I will take a stab and say $35-40K
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1969 307 4spd. coupe Daytona Yellow 711 bought in 85

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 08:52:29 PM »
All original except motor and paint. Originally Cortez Silver with Deluxe black interior. power windows too. The previous owner shot it with black lacquer in 1980 and still looks pretty nice. I did find receipts from the dealership for a 396 that he bought in 1980 as well as GM fenders and hood. Previous owner is deceased so don't know why this stuff was replaced? I was in touch with the owner before him and he bought the car  from his neighbor when it had the L78 and when it was silver. He is going to send me a photograph that he's been holding on to all these years.(he regrets ever selling the car) :'( As far as restoration goes, paint job is all that was ever done. Interior looks and smells original and needs new. Although, it's not that bad. Yes, structurally sound and I've gone through tranny and rear end and brakes. Still trying to find Docs of some kind. Right now all I have is previous owners and findings on car itself. Oh, and it looks bitchen standing still

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2015, 02:50:50 AM »
Man, I guess I just saved my car from either being painted H.O, or being used by test dummies...
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2015, 03:20:19 AM »
Well we all love pics, so please post some.. ;D

This will help big time with us giving options on value
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2015, 11:55:20 AM »
Pics.  Seems like this is one of the hardest things for people to figure out...  Maybe someone makes a sticky on how to reduce images or how to post them on a message forum.. 











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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 12:22:02 PM »
OK I'll guess 35-40K I'd go more if it had those documents!

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 12:47:48 PM »
Hard to put a price on something without viewing in person.  I see a lot of things a wise potential buyer would question.   I'd probably correct some things first before selling if it were mine, the correct redline tach for the engine claimed would be the first thing that jumped at me.  Maybe a few details under the hood to attract a larger market.
  With non original engine and no papers on a Van Nuys car with no X-code, I probably wouldn't be as generous as to a guess on value as some of these other guys.
  Maybe research the car more?  Have an appraisal done by a qualified knowledgeable Camaro person?

Just some thoughts....

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 01:06:16 PM »
Any cooling issues? I don't see a fan shroud?
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 01:30:22 PM »
Hard to put a price on something without viewing in person.  I see a lot of things a wise potential buyer would question.   I'd probably correct some things first before selling if it were mine, the correct redline tach for the engine claimed would be the first thing that jumped at me.  Maybe a few details under the hood to attract a larger market.
  With non original engine and no papers on a Van Nuys car with no X-code, I probably wouldn't be as generous as to a guess on value as some of these other guys.
  Maybe research the car more?  Have an appraisal done by a qualified knowledgeable Camaro person?

Just some thoughts....
Well said.

You might want to change out the Nova gauges in your console for Camaro gauges. Beautiful 69, but a little ways from "all original".
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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 01:41:43 PM »
                                   3 row radiator UY,IO,OO, NO A/C

You certain about the originality of the radiator ? Codes are unusual: UY tag is either a COPO curved neck 4 core, or a 396 w/A/C 4 core. IO tank code is a 4 core BB curved neck (which would match the pics above), OO is BB manual trans. Look for the date codes on the radiator - if they are a close match, this could get better. My L78 is a three core manual, pretty sure it's an original to the car. Possible HD rad ordered for this one, but who knows ? Now, if it only had a BE coded rear end stuffed under it -

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 01:53:20 PM »
Man, I guess I just saved my car from either being painted H.O, or being used by test dummies...

Somebody said they were proposing using H.O. cars as donors for artificial reefs offshore ?

Before the hate mail erupts, realize that statement is an attempt at a jest -

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 02:18:48 PM »
runs normal temp, just that the shroud is split in half at bottom.
Why the heck are nova gauges in my car!
so did they stuff this radiator in car because ???
I'll get under it tonight and look for that BE code :o

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 03:14:48 PM »
OK I'll guess 35-40K I'd go more if it had those documents!

I would say 35-40 if you had the docs, with a NOM BB.

In its current condition I would say about 25k-30k, and agree correcting the little things will give it a bump up.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Fair Market Value
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 06:46:36 PM »
Not sure what the explanation would be behind those nova gauges but Dave is right.  There are a lot of things I noticed just from a couple of those pics as would any buyer.  I didn't want to knock the car, it's still a cool piece.

Things you could do that would appeal to a larger market and bring more money.

Get the pieces to make the cowl hood work as it should, even if reproduction, it's better than nothing at all.
  I'd probably grab a correct 375hp intake, they are still relatively easy to find, I see them at swap meets all the time in the $300 range.
  While I'm at it I'd install a correct fuel line setup, master cylinder, deep groove pulleys (couldn't quite tell in pic if they are there), correct alternator brackets etc..  again reproduction here is inexpensive yet it helps with the overall persona of the car.   I'd leave the headers.
  I also noticed the RS headlight washer system is non existent on your wiper motor, repop is available and not that expensive.
   There's more but just little things like this would really bring the car up to another level without too much out of pocket.
Hope that helps.