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Early LOS 1967
« on: August 12, 2015, 05:28:24 AM »
A coworker has this SS badged Convert. Very Sharp car.

Decode and discuss "SS"

It is missing the Orig motor and now has a 4speed.

Jim
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 03:14:42 PM »
Hi Jim -

This tag is not for an SS car - would require 4P. It is an RS car (3L) with a Powerglide trans (2M).
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 05:44:21 PM »
"The 4P code was not used at the start of production at either the Van Nuys plant or the Norwood plant.
Van Nuys started using the 4P code on the SS350 cars in September, but Norwood didn't start using the 4P code until October. Early Van Nuys SS350 cars and Norwood SS350 cars built before October will not have the 4P code to verify that they are SS's.
The 4P code can indicate either a SS350 or a L30/M20. Usage of the 4P code with the L30/M20 is believed to have started in the late December 1966 / January 1967 timeframe.

The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2015, 06:26:30 PM »
What size is the main fuel line?  5/16" or 3/8"?  Assuming its original..

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2015, 10:24:02 PM »
"The 4P code was not used at the start of production at either the Van Nuys plant or the Norwood plant.
Van Nuys started using the 4P code on the SS350 cars in September, but Norwood didn't start using the 4P code until October. Early Van Nuys SS350 cars and Norwood SS350 cars built before October will not have the 4P code to verify that they are SS's.
The 4P code can indicate either a SS350 or a L30/M20. Usage of the 4P code with the L30/M20 is believed to have started in the late December 1966 / January 1967 timeframe.

The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

Paul


This car is late Sept (09D) Van Nuys - shouldn't it have 4P for SS350?
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 01:03:58 AM »
"The 4P code was not used at the start of production at either the Van Nuys plant or the Norwood plant.
Van Nuys started using the 4P code on the SS350 cars in September, but Norwood didn't start using the 4P code until October. Early Van Nuys SS350 cars and Norwood SS350 cars built before October will not have the 4P code to verify that they are SS's.
The 4P code can indicate either a SS350 or a L30/M20. Usage of the 4P code with the L30/M20 is believed to have started in the late December 1966 / January 1967 timeframe.

The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

Paul


This car is late Sept (09D) Van Nuys - shouldn't it have 4P for SS350?


"The 4P code was not used at the start of production at either the Van Nuys plant or the Norwood plant.
Van Nuys started using the 4P code on the SS350 cars in September, but Norwood didn't start using the 4P code until October. Early Van Nuys SS350 cars and Norwood SS350 cars built before October will not have the 4P code to verify that they are SS's. The 4P code can indicate either a SS350 or a L30/M20. Usage of the 4P code with the L30/M20 is believed to have started in the late December 1966 / January 1967 timeframe.

The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#67Codes

Paul


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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 01:21:48 AM »
"The 4P code was not used at the start of production at either the Van Nuys plant or the Norwood plant.
Van Nuys started using the 4P code on the SS350 cars in September, but Norwood didn't start using the 4P code until October. Early Van Nuys SS350 cars and Norwood SS350 cars built before October will not have the 4P code to verify that they are SS's.
The 4P code can indicate either a SS350 or a L30/M20. Usage of the 4P code with the L30/M20 is believed to have started in the late December 1966 / January 1967 timeframe.

The very first 1967 Z28's and L78's were also coded 4P; the 4L and 4K codes were then used on the remainder of 1967 Z28 and L78 production.

The lack of a 4P, 4L, 4N, or 4K code indicates the car originally had a 327 (assuming the car had a V8, as indicated by the VIN). The only exception is the early SS350's noted above."

Quite ambiguous as the sentence before clearly states VN SS350 cars used 4P staring in September and Norwood in October.... ???
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 01:50:15 AM »
Quite ambiguous as the sentence before clearly states VN SS350 cars used 4P staring in September and Norwood in October.... ???

You're right, BC.  Kurt?

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 02:26:23 AM »
I have notes relative to an 09C Van Nuys coupe with body # 889.  There was nothing else about the car that was remarkable.

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 03:45:56 AM »
What size is the main fuel line?  5/16" or 3/8"?  Assuming its original..

It might take a bit but I will try to get access and measure the fuel line & report back.

How significant is the LOS 200?

JIM
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2015, 11:31:01 AM »
What size is the main fuel line?  5/16" or 3/8"?  Assuming its original..

It might take a bit but I will try to get access and measure the fuel line & report back.

How significant is the LOS 200?

JIM

Not sure at this point.  Whats the vin?

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2015, 09:02:07 PM »
It's late enough that it should have a 4P if it was an SS.
200 just means it was the 200th deluxe interior convertible. http://www.camaros.org/bodynumbering.shtml#67LOS
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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2015, 03:31:59 PM »
Kurt, And does this mean the 200th Camaro or 200th unit that was being assembled at Van Nuys??? For example, my LOS Camaro is a 10A dated build with the unit number being 3342, surely this was not how many Camaros had been built in Van Nuys by this date is it. Or is it?

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Re: Early LOS 1967
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2015, 06:34:27 PM »
Follow the link and you will find out how there can be 4 body #3342 1967 Camaros from LOS alone.

 

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