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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2015, 03:54:05 PM »
The original $59k selling price seems to be the area that most numbers matching Z's that are decently restored are going for among private parties.  In this case the color didn't seem to have any affect.  It will be interesting to see if a bidding frenzy jacks up the price at all, but that won't really reflect real world private party prices in most peoples opinions.

I've said it before, that's why I think people selling Z's and wanting $35k or more for a car that needs another $40k worth of restoration work are out of their minds when you can buy a nicely done numbers matching car in the $50-$65k range (not necessarily concours, but nice) and this car was just one example.

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2015, 04:13:07 PM »
Really? Are we going to have to hear about this car every time it is for sale?
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2015, 04:21:29 PM »
Really? Are we going to have to hear about this car every time it is for sale?

 :o       ;D

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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2015, 04:34:22 PM »
Is this still a sore spot for you?  ;D

I think we hear about all of them when they come up forsale   ;)    I don't care what color it is, At least it's a real Z for a change.  So we can at least be happy about that.


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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2015, 04:37:50 PM »
Sore spot?  Nope.

Just thought this horse had been beat to death, was long ago decayed and it's ashes had blown away with the wind.  :D

It gets old though when the same person keeps bringing up the same topic just to be antagonistic.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 04:47:41 PM »
Ha, just pokin fun  ;D

I do like the fact that you guys spend alot of time documenting these cars, keeping track of vins, sales etc... so we can weed the fakes from the real ones and potential new owners can do their homework.

I see this car as no different in that respect, so it's good that someone brought it to light that it's hitting the auction block.  At least a new owner can be sure he's getting a real Z.

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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2015, 04:51:39 PM »
Original owner should buy it back.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2015, 05:40:13 PM »
Original owner should buy it back.

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Seems like there is so much interest in it, why not just buy it back?
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 07:17:32 PM »
Really? Are we going to have to hear about this car every time it is for sale?
Though most of us know the story behind it.  As long as anyone is in this hobby long enough they'll see and hear of it again and again ;D  As others become new to the hobby or it surfaces again in 5 years on the auction block it's always going to draw a discussion.   Like one said earlier... "At least it's a real Z for a change".   So lets in brace it for that !
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2015, 01:56:17 AM »
Clem..you need to get a cut of the auction action on this car. I don't believe the car sold for $59k. There was something terribly fishy about that sale and the seller's radio silence after a well publicized restoration. If the Carolina Blue didn't sell at Mecum auction after being bid up to over $400k as a rare 1/1 then how did EO go for $59k?  Riddle me that Batman
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2015, 04:08:25 AM »
If you have a couple hours to spare read the thread below & the $59k may not surprise you...

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776

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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2015, 01:18:37 PM »
If you have a couple hours to spare read the thread below & the $59k may not surprise you...

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776


If you have a couple hours to spare read the thread below & the $59k may not surprise you...

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776


FT Lang I did read the whole thing and that is why i reached the conclusion that I reached.  Made no sense to me how after choosing the EO color and all the controversy surrounding the car and the level of restoration that he would let it go that cheap.  My reserve would have been in the $100K range.  I know Jerry and William saw the car and attested it was CS and the trim tag was probably stripe delete, but when we saw the door panel peeled back with the pink hues and Clem's story even I was convinced it was a super rare 1of 1.  Maybe that does not mean super desirable but in my book it's more than $59K.  Either way no reason to rehash hear. Let's see what it brings at Mecum when it gets talked up.  What we know for sure is that it will not have Jerry's blessing as a 1 of 1.  If it were my car I would have had him come out after the restoration started to see the pink hues under the door panels.
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2015, 03:59:06 PM »
Hi Rob -

I agree with you - one of one should bring much more than $59k.

I think that the Camaro forum banter had a negative effect on the value - it would interesting to have this car auctioned at BJ as it would be re-scrutinized by JM prior to crossing the block....

Looking forward to seeing how it does at Mecum - have a nice weekend😀
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2015, 04:45:31 PM »
Ok, how about this: Wouldn't it fetch more if it was just painted silver stripe delete with a black vinyl top?  Maybe the EO (pinkish hue) is just a turn off?

( I assume it is numbers matching drivetrain, I couldn't remember)
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 04:59:02 PM »
They always do better at the auctions as long as you get more than 1 person interested in it.  BJ is a perfect example of bidding frenzy but doesn't always reflect private sales.  Frankly I feel the car brought all it would bring at $59k and could have had alot to do with advertising, location etc..(just speculating).  It may be 1 of 1 but that doesn't make it desirable to everyone in that color (even though I don't mind it since I'm sick of seeing blacks and reds)   At BJ it would get more exposure, plus I'd like the idea of Jerry possibly being at BJ that may bring to light some of the controversy before bidding that may or may not reflect price.   

However on the other hand that didn't seem to affect the sale price of Ron Pratt's RS Z this past January with controversy surrounding that one.

You just never know how the public is going to react on that givin day.  It might do fantastic at Mecum even though they don't tend to bring as much money as BJ does.  Without a reputable person there to dispute the original owners claims, no controversy, and a good crowd, it could bring silly money.  Or you could have a bunch of people there that absolutely hate purple, lol.    I've seen color affect prices good and bad more times than I can count, whether original or not.  Wait and see.

Not everyone reads these forums, including myself until just recently and I've been around this stuff for 40+ years, didn't even hear of Jerry McNeish until last year and I've had the Z for 30+.  (Not really a fan of computers) So I  don't think what is said here is always going to have an influence on sales depending on who lives and breaths the internet world.

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2015, 04:59:38 PM »
Ok, how about this: Wouldn't it fetch more if it was just painted silver stripe delete with a black vinyl top?  Maybe the EO (pinkish hue) is just a turn off?

( I assume it is numbers matching drivetrain, I couldn't remember)

Since I paint these things for a living, and from what I've seen on the market over the years,,,,,YES I believe there is a good chance the car would sell for more if painted silver with stripe delete as that would appeal to a larger market and likely drive up the bidding.
   I like the current color as it's different, and I like different, but it's a turn off for most people.  There's a reason why it was a rare color back then, lol.   Things haven't changed all that much today either.

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2015, 05:04:52 PM »
Well Jerry being there isn't going to bring up the price IMO. He is just going to say something to effect of when he inspected the car back then, they peeled back different parts, and it just showed silver. So this may break down to people thinking it has the wrong color on it now, and hence $59k
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2015, 05:08:36 PM »
Another example that is kind of the flip side of this, look at how popular the greens and golds were in the late 60's and early 70's.  They fell out of favor soon after.  I can't tell you how many 100's of classic cars I've seen throughout the 80's and beyond that had repaints a different color, usually black or red or blue, while the data tag showed green as the original color. 
   In alot of cases it's actually increased the sale prices, even though it's not the original color. 

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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2015, 05:10:55 PM »
Well Jerry being there isn't going to bring up the price IMO. He is just going to say something to effect of when he inspected the car back then, they peeled back different parts, and it just showed silver. So this may break down to people thinking it has the wrong color on it now, and hence $59k

Correct, I don't feel Jerry being there would increase the price, in my comment I meant to get across that it would actually have a negative affect on the price as he would likely state what he saw during inspection.
  Since he won't likely be at Mecum, we might see the price of this car go high because the controversy won't be there without someone reputable (like Jerry) to dispute the color, and not everyone reads the internet.  That's what I was trying to say.  Sorry if I didn't come across right.

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2015, 05:45:36 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2015, 10:30:55 PM »
In the Camaro forum thread Jerry & William stated the car was Cortez silver when they inspected it - given JM is at every BJ auction now to confirm camaros before they cross the block, I wonder what the listing would have said about the EO color?

I was thinking the car would do worse at BJ than Mecum or EBay because of this...
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2015, 10:33:21 PM »
PS - I think silver with stripe delete would be nicer as well!
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2015, 10:40:57 PM »
Hey Clem you seem to follow this car closely, any interest in owning it again?

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2015, 10:51:46 PM »
Original owner should buy it back.

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Seems like there is so much interest in it, why not just buy it back?
unlike most people here on the board I owned 68 and 69 Z/28 when they were new so I have moved on to new corvettes. I can see no fun in owning a used car.  :D
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2015, 11:52:26 PM »
Hey Clem you seem to follow this car closely, any interest in owning it again?


not really as I explained above. the owner called me up and offered for me to come to the auction so I will go.
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2015, 01:34:09 AM »
unlike most people here on the board I owned 68 and 69 Z/28 when they were new so I have moved on to new corvettes. I can see no fun in owning a used car.  :D
They were all new at one time.  Even your Corvette is NOW USED !  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2015, 02:14:36 AM »
Ha, funny you should bring the "new" thing up. My son had do to a problem in college figuring the life expectancy of the new Vette structural frame work. ( aluminum vs. steel) You engineers on the site, steel is almost a factor of infinity at this  vs. aluminum (hint) Take into consideration the average mileage put on a car per year plus oxidation, etc..

His professor is out of Detroit auto industry, kid got the answer right, but I'm not saying the answer. Think my old used Z might be around just a few more years, and still pounding the ground. :) (of course  gotta factor in most likely it will continue to remain suspended on the lift)

Just having some fun, Orchid 69 is bottom line a beautiful car, and if I was not paying for my son to be able to calculate these equations, I'd consider a bid! For what it went for last round anyway.
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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2015, 03:42:32 AM »
Slightly off topic but interesting chat,
    We've done the new thing, 3 vettes, 2 new camaros and a truck to name a few over the years.   Funny as we all get older my wife and I would rather drive classics now.  Pretty much the opposite of most old folks out there.  I don't care for the creature comforts and electronics anymore.  I much rather prefer the simplicity and ease of maintanance.  The fact that they keep appreciating while the new stuff plummets is a nice bonus  ;)

  Even my wife has become a diehard.   She has a new camaro she can drive yet she has preferred to drive my 36 year old 1-ton truck daily while I work towards getting the RS Z ready for her.  Yep, she wants to drive it daily.  So the new car is getting shipped down the road.
 

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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2015, 06:40:12 PM »
Slightly off topic but interesting chat,
X2 on the new cars.  Yeah they're nice and all but something still about a classic.  I/wife have an '05 Ram (Daytona), '95 Chevy stepside and a new '15 BMW M4.  Of course the trucks are mine and I just love driving my '95 stepside more than the Dodge Ram which currently has 58K miles behind it.
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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2015, 07:25:09 PM »
One advantage new cars will always have: SAFETY!

Check this out, 1959 Chevrolet Bel Air vs. 2009 Chevrolet Malibu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U

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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2015, 09:03:27 PM »
Not that big into safety.  I think that's been pounded in our heads a bit too much over the years. 
   Neither of us can stand air bags and I'm not that big a fan of ABS either.  Also gotten a little sick of the all the plastic on these new cars.   Too bad safety started ruining the looks of cars in 1973 and has just progressively gotten worse since, now in more ways than just appearances.
    I guess we look at it a little different, I could step out of the house and run over by a bus too but that doesn't make me dress like the michelin man  ;D

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2015, 09:28:27 PM »
Funny that is my thinking. But we don't drive to far away and are able to avoid a lot of the busy times on the road.
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2015, 10:19:49 PM »
With children in the car the majority of the time I think differently.  :)

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2015, 10:22:05 PM »
Funny that is my thinking. But we don't drive to far away and are able to avoid a lot of the busy times on the road.

Yeah I think we have alot in common when it comes to this stuff Bullitt, we are in the same situation, we don't really drive that far, 90% in town, and we avoid busy times as well.   We have been known to take long road trips in the classics several hundred miles away for a mini vacation but I also usually work a car event into that somehow, lol.   We only live once and I can't take the darn things with me when I'm gone.

Besides that, we live in a part of the country where we can drive them year round and enjoy without snow and road salt.  It's one of the biggest benefits of being out here.  It's definately classic car friendly.

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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2015, 10:32:44 PM »
With children in the car the majority of the time I think differently.  :)

Paul

Naa,   we all grew up in the back seats of classics, without seat belts even, and we all turned out just fine :)   Funny back then nobody gave it a second thought.   That gets back to all this garbage of society pounding safety into our heads that I mentioned earlier.....too much TV.

 Of course our kids are a big concern, but we've never felt their lives were in any danger just because I decided to drive a nomad, or a camaro, or....   No more than if I drove a new car.   I learned to drive in a nomad, manual drum brakes, manual steering, which became my daily for years after right up into the late 1980's.   
Actually I tend to believe we get noticed more on the road in a classic, rather than a cookie cutter car that blends in.  You still have to worry about the idiots but that's the case no matter what you drive.   I also find that we tend to drive the classics differently, more defensively, more cautious, and stick to back roads alot.  That type of approach keeps you out of 99% of the trouble you'll find.

Or, maybe we are just living on the edge Paul with disaster right around the corner :)

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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2015, 02:05:48 AM »
Great video Paul!

It is amazing how the engineering has developed with respect to absorbing the energy...
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2015, 02:20:18 AM »
Funny, when I was a kid, my sister and I would ride around in the back of my moms 67 Austin Healy (no seat belts, factory). Or my dad had a 71 VW BUS, and while it came with seat belts I can't ever remember digging them out from under the seat to wear them. Most of the fun was moving around inside that car.
It as become so ingrained in me growing up around cars with out belts, that my wife still reminds me to put one one when we get into our newer cars.

As far as safety goes now a days, yes I purchase the top notch car seats, for my kids, and they ride in them as long as possible weight/height wise, because it is safer. Once they have outgrown them though, they have all got in a 60's Camaro, Mustang, with a lap belt only. I also plan to run lap belts in my 56 Chevy for them.
 
So yes Larry I am with you.
Maybe someone will call Child protective services on us, for driving them around in a older (unsafe) car, but I think they are fine.

Could it be this "rough" upbringing rub off on them and they may want to drive a classic when they get older???

I can only hope they are picking me up from the old folks home one day in a Classic daily driver...
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2015, 03:00:32 AM »
Haha, you and me both Austin.   

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2015, 08:30:32 PM »
Did not sell....bid goes on!  Bid up to $160 and auction house said it would take $200
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2015, 08:54:23 PM »
Hey Rob -

Do you mean $160,000?!?!?
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2015, 09:05:40 PM »
Just checked - no sale at $100k over the last selling price - WOW!
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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2015, 09:14:57 PM »
something going on with that car....Clem was driving it across the block!  Clem what happened???
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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2015, 09:25:37 PM »
Very strange indeed :o
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2015, 10:27:48 PM »
If it doesn't smell now,  it's gonna ! :o 

Car was bought by K78288 (Owner/Brad @ Team Camaro) for a measly $15K and all original born with drive-train ? ...that's a give away price.  His last post (Team Camaro) in ref to the car was May 16th 2014 "Not much to report lately, its been way to cold to fire up the furnace in the garage and work on it."  Then he vanished without ever again posting any pics of it completed.. Odd.   ::)  Wouldn't you want to show of the "Fruits of your labor" ?  Then it showed up on ebay in Dec of the same year (2014) and sold for a measly..IMO  $59,100 (There were non-orig's selling for that price at the time also)... Odd !  ::)  AND now it reached $160K on the auction block at Meacum and it didn't go to a new owner ?  ::)  That's $100K profit in about 7 month ???  Somethings smells fishy here !...JMO

I'm wondering if the ebay sell wasn't a shill bid and K78288 won his own car.  Who would know ?  Now everything smells from the color to the $100K one could made on this sell   8)
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2015, 11:03:31 PM »
Was this at Harrisburg?
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2015, 12:44:33 AM »
OK guys let me clue you in on something here:

For example on this car you may see all these "phone bids" getting it bid up to just under the reserve.... and then nothing?!
Why do you ask?
All the big auction houses Mecum, R & M, Russo and Steel they all participate in this type of shill bidding.
They are hoping the (artificial) interest in bidding it up will catch on or the excitement will build up enough for just one person in the room to raise there hand/paddle. This magically gets it over the reserve, or all of sudden with that bid you may hear the reserve has been lifted.

Its not magic, its business, and legal from what I understand.

This is the explanation on why this car jumped 100k, but then didn't meet reserve or sell.

Always keep one skeptical eye open... ;)
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2015, 02:59:26 AM »
In the fine print of Mecums bidding info, it says they are allowed to bid up to the reserve. It might speed things up, but I dont like it that people that dont know think someone is bidding and its real money.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2015, 01:54:44 PM »
it was fun as I was there and the car attracted people all day long. the seller also had a cross ram rear brake Z/28 the did not meet reserve. he has sold 30 plus Z/28s. the owner was impressed how many people came up and told him they knew me and I had worked on their cars.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2015, 03:02:14 PM »
All valid points - I know I would lift the reserve for $100k profit in 7 months & most people would. (Especially on a +\- $60-65k investment!)

I think Bullitt is onto something there.

Not to beat a dead horse....but JM has certified & inspected hundreds (if not a thousand+) of first gen Camaro's. BJ has him certify their Camaro's & he has literally written the book on these cars. His certifications and reputation are beyond reproach IMHO.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2015, 04:54:27 PM »
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« Last Edit: August 07, 2015, 03:36:58 PM by KurtS »
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2015, 04:55:33 PM »
All valid points - I know I would lift the reserve for $100k profit in 7 months & most people would. (Especially on a +\- $60-65k investment!)

I think Bullitt is onto something there.

Not to beat a dead horse....but JM has certified & inspected hundreds (if not a thousand+) of first gen Camaro's. BJ has him certify their Camaro's & he has literally written the book on these cars. His certifications and reputation are beyond reproach IMHO.
yes BUT ne made a mistake on my car.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2015, 05:00:24 PM »
something going on with that car....Clem was driving it across the block!  Clem what happened???
I guess more people believed me instead of jerry.   :D I know nothing about how auctions work ,i just know what color my own car was

Ok I have kept quiet over this whole deal..  Personally I always felt the car was EO and especially since you were the original owner it helped my opinion..  But the fact that you just keep going on and on and on about this because someone disagreed with you it has gotten ridiculous..  Can you do me and many others a favor and just shut up about this..  I feel you could be a great benefit to this hobby with your experience but your attitude and the way you come across on these forums is lack luster and as long as you continue I could care less if you didnt post again..  Just my $0.02..

And for the record it WAS your car.  No longer.. 

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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2015, 05:07:21 PM »
X2 (except I have doubts about the EO color)
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2015, 05:08:28 PM »
Sunset Silver Metallic. 

Locking this up for now.  No longer productive.

It may reopen, but don't count on it.
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Re: EO Z/28 is back
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2015, 03:33:40 PM »
Clem,
You have been warned repeatedly about rehashing this topic.
I've deleted numerous posts of yours about it - and you don't even own the car!

Please don't continue to bring it up when your ban period is over.
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