Author Topic: Cruise control systems (K30) (Read 13931 times)

bc69 · « **on:** May 27, 2015, 01:12:42 AM »

Would like to start a thread on the factory K30 systems. There are a few of us that
are attempting to gather info starting with the factory installed systems in 66
and the changes in the dealer and factory installed systems and more. Please chime in and add anything you might have to benefit us on this subject.
Thanks in advance
Brad

Bryan302 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2015, 05:52:41 PM »

I have a good friend that has a 1968 RS 327-210 ME, with factory K30. Is there anything in particular that interest you? Servo Brackets?, etc. I would be glad to go look and ask about.

Bryan

bc69 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 03, 2015, 03:35:01 AM »

During some discussion on the k30's availability in early days it had been questioned as to when the kits became available at the dealers. Has been thought that it wasn't till around mid production of the 67's or later. It was offered as a factory installed in 67 but then dealer option in 8 and 9.
This is a kit offered on eBay and shows a date that is dec 66. Wondering if this was production date of part and or kit itself.

bc69 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 03, 2015, 03:40:04 AM »

Would this be a dec 5 date and then the 66009 maybe pn ? This could be a dec 5 67 date maybe?

Bryan302 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 04, 2015, 08:40:44 PM »

Dear bc69,

I noticed what you said about production K30 only being in 67, and then dealer installed in 68 & 69. I talked to my friend with the 68 RS and few minutes ago and refreshed my memory about the car. This car was built in January 68 and was special ordered, "Charge to C. A. C." by a GM executive in Baltimore, MD. The owner now has ran the VIN search twice, first in the early 90's by an agent, and second by NCRS recently. The car came back with the same info. the second time also.

The car is loaded, RS, ps, pb, a/c, tilt, wood wheel, pw, cruise, am/fm, fiber optics, remote mirror, and is British Green ZZ, with Houndstooth 749, and more. This car has never been molested, and WE feel because of these circumstances that it is factory cruise K30. Here is the down side, it is a NOR car with no found build sheet. The strong point that the car does have going for it was the patina and originality shown during dis assembly for restoration, and he did photograph heavily.

With this said, please let us know, if you know positively that K30 was rock solid 67 ONLY! It just does not make sense that all this was ordered, and they put the cruise on at the dealer! On second thought Charge to C. A. C. may have omitted the dealer?

Thanks,
Bryan

bc69 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 04, 2015, 09:49:19 PM »

Bryan I'm not sure that's fact on the factory installed 68. Through the discussions that I have seen on the subject suggested that. The data shows that there were just over 300 factory installed in 67 and around 15 to 20 more than that in 68. This "Factory Installed" option went away in 69. My 12C 67 was ordered with the K30 option, but was delivered without it having been installed. Then in March 67 it seems to have had the K30 option installed at the dealer. My understanding to this point, is that the K30 was not available in kit form yet. The dealer had to order each individual part required for the K30 from the factory to do the install.

68L30 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2015, 12:12:09 AM »

68 Cruise Control...

Steve

bc69 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2015, 02:03:43 AM »

Steve was this on yours? Where is throttle chain clip?

68L30 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2015, 04:19:01 PM »

Not on mine but it is mine....I'll get a pic for you. I pulled the complete setup from a 68 L-30 Caprice, so ther are some differences in hardware on the vaccum pod, everything else should be correct minus the lengths of wire,cable and hose. All can be adjusted easy enough. Very tough to find complete, this was on a 07D build car .

Steve

bc69 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2015, 05:20:10 PM »

Thanks would like to see the diff of parts as the system evolved

dalealan · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2015, 10:28:31 PM »

I have a series of photographs that Brian and I took on a trip to Norman, OK. I had posted an ad in Hemmings many years ago seeking information about an original Vacuum servo Bracket to replace the missing one on my 68 RS that Bryan mentioned in the earlier post. I got a reply from a guy in Norman who had a 68 base Camaro with K30 as an option. The car looked to be unmolested and the bracket and other components were exactly in the same positions as mine. I had not seen the difference in the original servo bracket for a 68 K30 and the Reproduction 67 K30 bracket that Ricks Camaro Parts offered at the time. There is a marked difference. I will try to post some of them for reference.

bc69 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 05, 2015, 10:33:15 PM »

Ok and if you need me to post a few of what I have I'd be glad to.
I know that all this one is orig.

bc69 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:36:14 AM »

Factory Stamped date

bc69 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:39:38 AM »

All original before a little restore or touch up.

bc69 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:45:41 AM »

Overview after cleanup

bc69 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:39:36 AM »

Module had no date stamped

dalealan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2015, 11:07:35 AM »

Here is a side by side comparison of the original 68 K30 Vacuum Servo Bracket that Bryan and I saw in OK compared to the 67 K30 Reproduction bracket offered by Ricks Camaro Parts in their catalog. Original on the left, repop on the right. Notice the mounting holes are different. One other thing, the over the counter kits have a completely different bracket that doesn't resemble either of these. Thanks bryan302 for calling to tell me about this thread and thanks bc69 for posting it.

dalealan · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2015, 11:20:21 AM »

Here is my bracket and vacuum servo. I was unsure about the original finish for the bracket. Since most mounting brackets were black, that is what I went with. Anyone have any ideas as to if that is correct?

bc69 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2015, 01:39:08 PM »

Better angle for view of holes in servo bracket.
This is great comparison of the three. Factory, over counter and aftermarket.
Can we do the same with the other components of the K30?

Dale if you notice this one matches the one you call repop.

bc69 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2015, 02:55:50 PM »

This is said to be the clip used in the first factory installs of the K30. It is thought to be different on the over the counter and aftermarkets kits.

bc69 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2015, 03:25:15 PM »

Having trouble posting pics

dalealan · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2015, 06:42:42 PM »

Quote from: bc69 on June 06, 2015, 01:39:08 PM

Better angle for view of holes in servo bracket.
This is great comparison of the three. Factory, over counter and aftermarket.
Can we do the same with the other components of the K30?

Dale if you notice this one matches the one you call repop.

Hey bc69,

I will post more pictures of my original components. The repop bracket in the picture above is a new one I ordered out of Ricks Camaro Parts catalog several years ago and they say it is a reproduction of the 67K30 bracket. You are right it matches your bracket exactly. The rusty bracket on the left in the picture above is an original 68 K30 bracket I was able to locate and the owner was nice enough to remove the bracket and allow me to make the comparison photographs. The painted bracket in the second photo I happened across on ebay and was able to purchase to replace the missing one from my car. When I bought my 68 RS the bracket and servo were the only K30 components that were missing. I looked for 20 years before I found an original one to replace the one that was taken out of my car when the original engine was replaced. My 68 was the victim of a small engine fire that likely ruined the servo because the wiring was melted in the vicinity of it as well as some under the dash. When that happened the original engine was replaced and because of the servo bracket being so close to the valve cover I am sure it got tossed.

68L30 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2015, 12:24:42 AM »

Here is the K30 throttle clip on a 68 L-30.....looks a bit different than a 67.

Steve

68L30 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 09, 2015, 12:25:35 AM »

One more:

68L30 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2015, 12:28:52 AM »

One more again:

bc69 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 09, 2015, 12:41:08 AM »

Have tried to post pic of mine but size won't let me.

dalealan · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2015, 03:02:35 PM »

bc69 Try cropping the picture down to a smaller size. Sometimes that works for me.

bc69 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 13, 2015, 03:39:44 PM »

Thanks Dale. I've tried that and sometimes it does help but a couple it don't.

bc69 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2015, 03:48:52 PM »

View of my 67 as clip was installed.

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Author Topic: Cruise control systems (K30) (Read 13931 times)