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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2015, 01:18:35 AM »
Chick, maybe you have me confused with another Dave. I have never been to spring Carlisle.

I am not worried that I can't fix this and make it right. I can always do like Bob said to do. I am just curious as to why that clip was positioned oppsite off the way it seems it should be. AAW told me also that they use GM's original blueprints. I don't know if AAW assembles these by hand or not. If they do, there's always the possibility that the person assembling put the clip in the wrong place. If Steve is able to take that pic of his NOS harness, that should tell me.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2015, 01:30:25 AM »
My AAW harness was plug and play.  A mistake could be made during assembly which is understandable.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2015, 02:04:04 AM »
Dave,
Do not think they put the clip in the wrong place, I think the end of the harness just got twisted. After you twisted the end to make the clip work all the wire colors match those in Mike's picture.
The thing that is causing your problem is the incorrect style clip. Do you have your old harness that has the correct clip?
Bob

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2015, 02:58:14 AM »
Or maybe just unwrap a few layers of tape to expose the clip to look like the original one show?
I checked and it is one of those 'off center' clips (if that is a good word to describe it) whereby the barb is towards an end vs. centered.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2015, 03:50:48 AM »
Mike,
Could you get a close up of your clip? I am going to have to replace my harness and my old harness does not have a clip so I need to start looking.
When they tape a harness they start at the main plug and tape continuously to the end. When they come to a short branch they do not cut the tape, they pull the tape to the end of the branch ( this case a clip ) and tape back to the main body of the harness then continue on to the next branch or end of harness. Short story, may not have an end to unravel.
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2015, 04:28:17 AM »
Chick, maybe you have me confused with another Dave. I have never been to spring Carlisle.

I am not worried that I can't fix this and make it right. I can always do like Bob said to do. I am just curious as to why that clip was positioned oppsite off the way it seems it should be. AAW told me also that they use GM's original blueprints. I don't know if AAW assembles these by hand or not. If they do, there's always the possibility that the person assembling put the clip in the wrong place. If Steve is able to take that pic of his NOS harness, that should tell me.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2015, 04:58:14 PM »
Chick, maybe you have me confused with another Dave. I have never been to spring Carlisle.

I am not worried that I can't fix this and make it right. I can always do like Bob said to do. I am just curious as to why that clip was positioned oppsite off the way it seems it should be. AAW told me also that they use GM's original blueprints. I don't know if AAW assembles these by hand or not. If they do, there's always the possibility that the person assembling put the clip in the wrong place. If Steve is able to take that pic of his NOS harness, that should tell me.

Dave

I'll take some pics. tonight. The original harness is not in the car but I have it. Dont understand why the previous owner swapped it for a new one. Nothing wrong with it.
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2015, 02:32:33 AM »
Mike,
Could you get a close up of your clip? ..........
Bob
Hi Bob,

  Here is a closeup of the clip from the 05B car. The harness is out of the car so it was easier to take a close up.
 It's the same clip that's on the LOS car I posted a picture of.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2015, 02:40:43 AM »
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2015, 02:42:10 PM »
I have seen both types of clips on the end of survivors, the loop over black one and the natural colored "regular" style clip. IMHO the loop over style which plugs back into itself FITS better at the illustrated location.
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2015, 03:09:47 AM »
Mike,
Could you get a close up of your clip? ..........
Bob
Hi Bob,

  Here is a closeup of the clip from the 05B car. The harness is out of the car so it was easier to take a close up.
 It's the same clip that's on the LOS car I posted a picture of.

Mike
Mike thanks for the picture, a little more detail than I expected.
Is that black clip correct? Not what I expected but understand why it could be used. Going to take a little work to make that clip.
Wonder if that is a 67 only thing? Where does it plug into? Looks like a newer style clip.
Bob
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2015, 01:12:51 PM »
Hi Bob,

  The black clip is used to secure the convertible power top feed wire to the harness.
That wire is attached to the horn relay.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2015, 04:21:40 PM »
Hi Bob,

  The black clip is used to secure the convertible power top feed wire to the harness.
That wire is attached to the horn relay.

Mike

Does the black ty clip plug into a hole or is it just used as a strap?
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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2015, 05:48:30 PM »
Hi Steve,

 It is just a strap. There are a couple of these along the harness route.

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Re: Front light wiring harness routing problem
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2015, 11:59:34 PM »
My orig. 67 harness had 2 of these and it drove me crazy. I could not find where they were plugged into. Thanks for this info.
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