First 2015 COPO Camaro being auctioned

[mark0006]

This car is a thing of beauty. I wonder what it will sell for.



From the article:
Chevrolet has announced plans to auction off the first 2015 COPO Camaro at the Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach auction on April 18th.

4 pictures and full article

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[69Z28-RS]

A 'store bought' drag car is not a thing of beauty to us all...  it's all in the eyes of he beholder..
Chevrolet is building/selling an 'off road' car which will not be used on the street???

[watk69]

A 'store bought' drag car is not a thing of beauty to us all...  it's all in the eyes of he beholder..
Chevrolet is building/selling an 'off road' car which will not be used on the street???

Boy do I ever agree with that summation. Thank God for streetable cars of which a '15 Z/28 fits the bill

[BULLITT65]

An expensive bill last time I looked they were about 75K = Corvette money

I like the performance aspect of the the car, but getting a modern day super car( Corvette ) seems like more bang for the buck.

[69Z28-RS]

from taking a quick look at that car, I'm doubting if it will be street legal.. *(aren't there requirements about 'visibility' thru the windshield and with that 'COPO billboard' of a raised hood, visibility cannot be that good!)...  Is chevy going into the business of selling 'special purpose, off road' cars?  Is that the mindset of Chevrolet's upper management?   will they be building 'drifter' cars?  hill climb cars?  hmmmmmm....   I'm glad I don't own any GM stock.. 

[BULLITT65]

I am pretty sure it is not street legal as it does not have all the safety equipment in order to cut weight for the track. So they are building these predominately for the racer, but I'm sure some collectors are ordering them to have a COPO. I am not sure about drifter or Hill climb but they also make a track only( Z/28.R )Again for the racer.

[BillOhio]

They have built them a couple years and seems like the used ones for sale are 100-120,000. A lot for just a race car. Wonder how they compare with a hellcat

[69Z28-RS]

And.. a  'real racer' could probably buy a $5000 Mustang, and with another 10-15K build a drag car that would stomp it....

I don't know where GM gets it's marketing people....   maybe from kindergarten classes??

[69Z28-RS]

AND..  if you want a real 'hot rodder built' Camaro drag car.... 153 mph after a quarter in 8.81...  Here's one for 1/4 to 1/3 the $$$ that a friend sent me an email about this morning...   - an upgrade to the 'old Mustang drag car' that I referenced earlier...  Will that 2015 GM factory built drag car run anything close to that???
The owner might even apply the 'C O P O ' letters to the car for a sale..
 
1982 Chevy Camaro Drag Race Car, turn key ready to race $35,000-or best reasonable serious offer, must sell, really a great deal at this price, you can't build a car like this for this price. Must see!!!!! Car was built by Ed Quay race cars. NHRA & IHRA certified chassis, Super stock class = SS/AM & SS/AS or other classes. Car works very well. Car includes: 394 ci Rocket small block, 865 hp, ET= 8.81 @ 153.20 mph - 1/4 mile, 3 IHRA ET Records. Car weight=3180# With driver. Steve Taylor PRC Carb, External wet sump system, Splayed valve heads, Jessel valve trane,Titanium valves, 3spd Pro Flite Transmission, PPP shifter w/air shift, Strange Alum. rear center section, 5:86 Pro gears, adj Koni coil over rear shocks, Koni frt. shocks, 2) 16v batteries, Auto Meter Gages & Tach, Airomotive Fuel Pump, Wil Wood Brakes, Kromer Custom Headers, Moroso Vac Pump, MSD Ing. system, Safety Chute & much-much-much-more to mention.  

[BULLITT65]

And.. a  'real racer' could probably buy a $5000 Mustang, and with another 10-15K build a drag car that would stomp it....

I don't know where GM gets it's marketing people....   maybe from kindergarten classes??

Well I would say just the opposite, their "race" cars are based off factory models. GM is making a few mods and giving customer a few options for drive train in the COPO and then marking it up considerably because of the COPO name and what it famously has represented. So seems like a good business model to me.
Now if they were making the car from scratch and there was a ton of R & D involved and they were losing money I would agree with you.

You sighted buying a mustang, (which I am guessing you meant street car), but Ford also offers a Cobra drag car that is not street legal, and Dodge also offers a Challenger drag only car, for its followers who want to cough up the dough.

[69Z28-RS]

And.. a  'real racer' could probably buy a $5000 Mustang, and with another 10-15K build a drag car that would stomp it....

I don't know where GM gets it's marketing people....   maybe from kindergarten classes??

Well I would say just the opposite, their "race" cars are based off factory models. GM is making a few mods and giving customer a few options for drive train in the COPO and then marking it up considerably because of the COPO name and what it famously has represented. So seems like a good business model to me.
Now if they were making the car from scratch and there was a ton of R & D involved and they were losing money I would agree with you.

You sighted buying a mustang, (which I am guessing you meant street car), but Ford also offers a Cobra drag car that is not street legal, and Dodge also offers a Challenger drag only car, for its followers who want to cough up the dough.

Well, thank you Austin..   that was all 'news' to me....  shows how little I pay attention to the advertising they do...      Do you know if ANY of those 'factory drag cars' have ever won a race?? 

[BULLITT65]

Yes they have. Remember they are factory race car , and not a factory sponsored race car. Once they go into private hands its up to the owners to win their race(s) in their specific class in their region. I am sure there are a few other owners who have moth balled the cars as well.

They had a good episode on Velocity that featured Don "The Snake" Prudhomme thrashing a new Cobra factory race car a while back. If you stop by a magazine rack you will see coverage of each car every couple of months and what an owner has done to make one of them ( Dodge, Ford, Chevy) a winner.

[BillOhio]

I checked and seen a copo run 8.88. I would guess they run more of a super stock class than the older camaro pictured

[JKZ27]

They're offering LSX based 350, 396 cid engines and LS7 427. I think you can pick one or all engines, serial numbered to your car.

https://www.chevrolet.com/performance/copo-camaro.html

[69Z28-RS]

What's the factory warranty on those?   100 runs?  or 25 miles?  whichever comes first? 

[BULLITT65]

You may get a warranty as long as there are no power adders...

[1971ls6]

Cars are sold on a bill of sale and are not street legal. Yes, my good friend won the U.S. national and set a class record at the Same race. They also have a 4 speed transmission, g force. I was at the factory last Saturday and they are in full swing and getting ready to start the season, I hope he can get my zl-1 done for a June race.

[69Z28-RS]

Those cars must be a 'post production' process in a separate facility than normal Camaro production?   Do they get a 'body in white' minus drivetrain (and hood?) from Camaro production?

[BULLITT65]

For the '14, I thought all of them were white. The '15 I have seen Silver.

Yes they leave production early before sound deadener and other safety items, and the rest is hand assembled, I believe since it is small production.

[69 Zee]

I was at the Barrett-Jackson Auction in WPB Thurs thru Sunday.  Sitting just 5 rows back.  Saturday being the big $$ day for several cars.  The COPO #001 sold for charity to benefit "THE ACHILLES FREEDOM TEAM OF WOUNDED VETERANS" for $300K.

On a side bar for those that were not there, as TV was cutting away and viewers were unable to hear cause of crowd noise.  Mr. John Staluppi, a West Palm Beach resident, classic car collector and Barrett-Jackson figure contributed an additional un-noticed $100K to the $300K purchase price.

Btw.. did anyone take notice of the 69 H.O. Z with a bad T.T. bring in $77K ? or the 69 RS Z X77 ?... Yes a VERY VERY rare X77 RS    I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own 2 eye     ... and both were early build D80 T.T.'s.  Soon to be featuring at a dealer near you.

[BULLITT65]

I thought Barret jackson employed Jerry M to look over all these "genuine" Camaros?

[69 Zee]

I thought Barret jackson employed Jerry M to look over all these "genuine" Camaros?

Not to Hi-jack Marks thread or change it's direction

Saturday I had the chance to meet Jerry and talk for approx 10-15 min. in reference to my Z and having it certified.  I believe Jerry only tells Barrett-Jackson what he see's or perceives it to be.  Thus in return Barrett-Jackson will disclose that info in which they did.   They stated (on both) they were restamps with reproduction T.T.'s.   That's what baffled me    that even after the info was disclosed the H.O (so called) Z still drew nearly $80 G's.  

The pic is the H.O. Trim Tag.  I wished I'd snapped a pic of the block stamp.  There was just so many people around it at the time making it hard to get to.  But a buddy did tell me that it was showing a VIN stamp on the pad as well.   I also believe if my memory serves me well,  that Barrett-Jackson did say it was a #'s matching just before stating that it was a restamp..lol   .  Their book caption does state "Numbers Matching" but that's all pre-printed way in advance.  So you can tell them anything before hand.

Correct me if I'm wrong if anyone taped it.

[69Z28-RS]

These days, the terms 'matching numbers'... does NOT address WHEN the numbers were applied to that car and it's parts, or HOW those numbers got applied...  it's shameful, but that's the way it is.   I don't pay much attention anymore to that term; the term most appropriate to me nowadays is 'factory installed parts'.. and 'factory original'.

[69 Zee]

These days, the terms 'matching numbers'... does NOT address WHEN the numbers were applied to that car and it's parts, or HOW those numbers got applied...  it's shameful, but that's the way it is.   I don't pay much attention anymore to that term; the term most appropriate to me nowadays is 'factory installed parts'.. and 'factory original'.

Yeah Gary agree.. Numbers matching what ?.. maybe the block and the trans match one another but that's it...lol

[BULLITT65]

" Numbers matching" = What a 1969 Camaro Z/28 would have come with ?

Maybe nobody has sued them for enough money, or when they get a bidders card they sign a wavier.

I guess they get away with it, until they don't.

[69Z28-RS]

IF someone 'restamps' the parts, changes the tags, etc.. so that 'all the numbers match up' to what the factory *could have done*, then that is 'numbers matching'..  but that doesn't say that the stamped codes are the factory original codes for those parts.  THOSE are the words used by the restampers (numbers matching).. meaning that they MADE the 'numbers match'... known factory practices.

[BULLITT65]

I think we can all agree on that.

Are all the bidders this mis-informed, or is this the new "clone market" of the 2007-2009 era, when those cars (Hemi, SS, COPO, Yenko)  were getting bid way over value?

Darrell was there any legit Z that went up for bid and you could see a significant jump in price for the real deal?

[69 Zee]

Was there any legit Z that went up for bid and you could see a significant jump in price for the real deal?

Actually there was !  Only 1.. a 68 Lemans Blue on blue with tons of docs, POP, maintenance records and J.M. certified.   Jerry was praising this one during the auction and the sell price went at $100K on the button.  Was gorgeous to say the least and I also believe it was all original metal.   Jerry had told me during our brief conversation that he had once certified this while it was going thru it's restoration process.

I just got these pics from the buyer via the phone.  It's new home is Maryland and I was told about 12 miles from J.M. 

[BULLITT65]

Thanks Darrell , thats a good looking Z. Maybe the new owner will jump on here and give us some more info about it.

I hope everyone took notice, and we see more legit cars.

(Although when you throw in buyers premium and sellers premium seems a bit out there)