Author Topic: BV Water Pump Pulley (Read 17248 times)

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **on:** February 06, 2015, 04:57:16 PM »

Did the original water pump pulley "BV" also have the part number on it as well. Need one for a 69 L72. Thanks.

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:12:55 PM »

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:17:50 PM »

Thanks! Just bought one.

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:40:30 PM »

Quote from: RS_COPO_Canuck on February 06, 2015, 06:17:50 PM

Thanks! Just bought one.

Good! Hope it is a REAL one?

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2015, 06:44:50 PM »

Me too - Lol!!

Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/131404638115?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

copo · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2015, 09:42:51 PM »

Looks like real one to me.

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2015, 02:45:18 PM »

Great - Thanks all!

My68SS · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:05:10 PM »

What does the seller mean by "has the correct notches around it " ?

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:53:24 PM »

Not sure either....as I don't see them in any of his pics. I do remember seeing pulleys that had "ridges" around them. I guess when I have it in my hand I will be better able to see the entire thing.

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2015, 05:05:30 PM »

Quote from: My68SS on February 09, 2015, 03:05:10 PM

What does the seller mean by "has the correct notches around it " ?

I believe the seller is referring to the "snout" area of the pulley is distorted on original 824BV pulleys caused by the reinforcement on the backside being pressed into place and leaving the snout "notched" (IIR octagonal) instead of round (cylindrical), because of 8 swedged places that distort the snout area. Not all GM pulleys have this feature, but a real 824 does and experience tells me that is about the "going" price for the real deal.

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2015, 06:45:52 PM »

Aha! I do see it a little now in the pic showing the part number and BV.

ZLP955 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2015, 08:26:55 PM »

Quote from: RS_COPO_Canuck on February 06, 2015, 04:57:16 PM

Need one for a 69 L72.

Would love to hear more about your car, and see some pictures too! Was it a GM of Canada car new?

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2015, 02:04:22 PM »

Yes - Sold new in Toronto. I'll try and convert the GM Canada doc to a jpeg.
Talked to a few previous owners....still trying to get hold of the original owner.
Here are a couple of pics. The one in the snow is the car arriving at my place.
I need to straighten out a few detail items.....it is an older resto with some Eastwood paint instead of plating etc.
I have the proper tires on order....should be here soon.
Everything matches....no issues there. Most of the other stuff, so far, looks correct.
Has some great options.....especially the RS and the Endura bumper.
I'll post some more pics later on as well.

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2015, 02:21:37 PM »

Here is a copy of the GM Canada docs.....

L78 steve · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:52:33 PM »

What is the difference between The 842BV and DV?

ZLP955 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 11, 2015, 07:39:24 AM »

Thanks for posting the pictures, beautiful car!

jdv69z · « **Reply #16 on:** February 11, 2015, 02:46:16 PM »

Quote from: L78 steve on February 10, 2015, 05:52:33 PM

What is the difference between The 842BV and DV?

Here's a DV pulley on my 69 Z. Apparently a service replacement. According to Jerry M's book, either one could be original. Different supplier?

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2015, 04:49:20 PM »

Quote from: jdv69z on February 11, 2015, 02:46:16 PM

Quote from: L78 steve on February 10, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
What is the difference between The 842BV and DV?

Here's a DV pulley on my 69 Z. Apparently a service replacement. According to Jerry M's book, either one could be original. Different supplier?

On a Z? Should that not be a 3932456? I never knew why the DV either. There is something IIR, on Yenko site. Will have to do some digging.

jdv69z · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2015, 07:46:23 PM »

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on February 11, 2015, 04:49:20 PM

Quote from: jdv69z on February 11, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
Quote from: L78 steve on February 10, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
What is the difference between The 842BV and DV?

Here's a DV pulley on my 69 Z. Apparently a service replacement. According to Jerry M's book, either one could be original. Different supplier?

On a Z? Should that not be a 3932456? I never knew why the DV either. There is something IIR, on Yenko site. Will have to do some digging.

Yes, apparently original replaced with this one. Not quite sure why a pulley would need replacement? I know the water pump and clutch fan were replaced as well, so I'm assuming it all happened together.

L78 steve · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2015, 07:50:06 PM »

Wish I had a spare 456, I'd trade for that 842. Both are valued about the same.

VINCE Z28 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2015, 10:59:18 PM »

Bentley can you tell m if this smog pump pulley is original or a repop and how can one tell ?

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:17:07 PM »

Quote from: VINCE Z28 on February 11, 2015, 10:59:18 PM

Bentley can you tell m if this smog pump pulley is original or a repop and how can one tell ?

Please, I am no expert. Sure miss Ed. They made that pulley for a few years and it has some variations. I only know what to look for on a 69 specific application. Here is a link to real 69. They are some good pics and description by Chuck. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/581853/458

One of the "telltale" ID's is the stamping mark that encircles the part #. Based on that, it looks as yours is for another year or it is a repop. I am leaning repop.

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2015, 01:50:20 AM »

Another set of good pics: http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/584200/gonew/1/3932458-da-deep-groove-smog-pu#UNREAD

jdv69z · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2015, 02:19:26 PM »

Quote from: L78 steve on February 11, 2015, 07:50:06 PM

Wish I had a spare 456, I'd trade for that 842. Both are valued about the same.

Yes, I see Heartbeat City is asking $450 for a used 456. The clutch fan on my car is dated Dec 1977, which makes me guess that the 824 pulley was still available as a service part in early 1978?

L78 steve · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2015, 02:53:53 PM »

$350 is the current value.

jdv69z · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2015, 04:13:58 PM »

So Heartbeat is only overpriced by $100!!

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2015, 02:38:45 PM »

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on February 09, 2015, 05:05:30 PM

Quote from: My68SS on February 09, 2015, 03:05:10 PM
What does the seller mean by "has the correct notches around it " ?
I believe the seller is referring to the "snout" area of the pulley is distorted on original 824BV pulleys caused by the reinforcement on the backside being pressed into place and leaving the snout "notched" (IIR octagonal) instead of round (cylindrical), because of 8 swedged places that distort the snout area. Not all GM pulleys have this feature, but a real 824 does and experience tells me that is about the "going" price for the real deal.

I got the pulley yesterday - and indeed, you were spot on the characteristics you described. The snout is octagonal. Still fairly round....but you can definitely see the "flats". And guess what? Having the proper pulley cured the fan belt misalignment I had with the pulley that was on it. I'm happy it wasn't because of the water pump shaft. My new problem is the incorrect pulley was a bigger diameter than the BV....and now my fan belt is too long.....no big deal, picking up a new belt today. Thanks again!

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2015, 05:29:36 PM »

Quote from: RS_COPO_Canuck on February 13, 2015, 02:38:45 PM

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on February 09, 2015, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: My68SS on February 09, 2015, 03:05:10 PM
What does the seller mean by "has the correct notches around it " ?
I believe the seller is referring to the "snout" area of the pulley is distorted on original 824BV pulleys caused by the reinforcement on the backside being pressed into place and leaving the snout "notched" (IIR octagonal) instead of round (cylindrical), because of 8 swedged places that distort the snout area. Not all GM pulleys have this feature, but a real 824 does and experience tells me that is about the "going" price for the real deal.
I got the pulley yesterday - and indeed, you were spot on the characteristics you described. The snout is octagonal. Still fairly round....but you can definitely see the "flats". And guess what? Having the proper pulley cured the fan belt misalignment I had with the pulley that was on it. I'm happy it wasn't because of the water pump shaft. My new problem is the incorrect pulley was a bigger diameter than the BV....and now my fan belt is too long.....no big deal, picking up a new belt today. Thanks again!

Congrats! I guess you are finding out that CRG is the real deal and guys on here know there stuff, eh? Hope you become a "regular" , here, and good luck getting that nice car sorted out.

RS_COPO_Canuck · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2015, 06:07:57 PM »

Thanks! I have a confession to make....I am 100% a car guy....if they were cool - I like them...regardless of make. But I have mostly Mopars.....I know them inside out and am totally comfortable with them. I have judged them, both restored and survivors....most recent - I was at the Chicago show judging them a few months ago. I have written technical articles for magazines over the past few years as well...all Mopar stuff. I have had a few Chev's over the years...as well as other makes. I like to dive deep into the technical side and learn all I can of whatever it is I have. I must say, the group here at CRG is top notch, friendly and ready and happy to pass on knowledge.....I have always been that way as well.....you know....with that other brand...Lol! Thanks Again!

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2015, 08:05:39 PM »

you're in good company! We're 100% 'car guys' too.. and some of us even like Mopars too...

.. and in the spirit of 'confession', I owned a '53 Henry J for over 25 yrs!! but it had a '67 Z28 302..

z28z11 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 14, 2015, 06:32:33 PM »

Sorry for the late entry, but I've been out of town for a couple of weeks and could not add my 2 cents -

The 2456DV pictured is off my X77, definite original, and the inner support is not swaged in place, but is spot welded as shown. This is the original finish on the pulley as well - appears to be dark grey phospate on the front side, or maybe dulled semi-flat black.

The 824BV shown is a repop. The two pulleys are different in diameter by quite a bit - no wonder the belts needed to be swapped according to My68SS -

Regards,
Steve

z28z11 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 14, 2015, 06:43:03 PM »

Quote from: 69Z28-RS on February 13, 2015, 08:05:39 PM

I owned a '53 Henry J for over 25 yrs!!

Gary - are you sure it wasn't an Allstate ? I've heard how cost conscious you are -

Regards,
Steve

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2015, 04:04:06 AM »

Quote from: z28z11 on February 14, 2015, 06:43:03 PM

Quote from: 69Z28-RS on February 13, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
I owned a '53 Henry J for over 25 yrs!!

Gary - are you sure it wasn't an Allstate ? I've heard how cost conscious you are -

Regards,
Steve

Nope, it was a Henry J..

but I've seen a few Allstates in my day.. when searching for Henrys..

L78 steve · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2015, 04:27:05 AM »

Sorry for the late entry, but I've been out of town for a couple of weeks and could not add my 2 cents -

The 2456DV pictured is off my X77, definite original, and the inner support is not swaged in place, but is spot welded as shown. This is the original finish on the pulley as well - appears to be dark grey phospate on the front side, or maybe dulled semi-flat black.

The 824BV shown is a repop. The two pulleys are different in diameter by quite a bit - no wonder the belts needed to be swapped according to My68SS -

Regards,
Steve

So this is non original?

ko-lek-tor · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2015, 05:26:43 AM »

Quote from: L78 steve on February 15, 2015, 04:27:05 AM

Sorry for the late entry, but I've been out of town for a couple of weeks and could not add my 2 cents -

The 2456DV pictured is off my X77, definite original, and the inner support is not swaged in place, but is spot welded as shown. This is the original finish on the pulley as well - appears to be dark grey phospate on the front side, or maybe dulled semi-flat black.

The 824BV shown is a repop. The two pulleys are different in diameter by quite a bit - no wonder the belts needed to be swapped according to My68SS -

Regards,
Steve

So this is non original?

What are you trying to say? and what does any of that have to do with a 2456? or the pic of a repop 824?

L78 steve · « **Reply #35 on:** February 16, 2015, 03:17:14 AM »

I'm trying to figure out which is correct the spot welded or swaged design pulley.

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Author Topic: BV Water Pump Pulley (Read 17248 times)