Author Topic: Wanted : pictures of my Camaro in 1972-1979 A Sedan Championship (Read 19549 times)

eb911 · « **on:** January 12, 2015, 06:06:14 PM »

I am looking for period pictures of my car. It raced in en A Sedan championship from 72 to 79. It raced in the following events, or at least the ones I have managed to read in the original logbooks :
1972 : Lime Rock - Driver : EARL HURLBUT
1973 – Cumberland XY, NNY National, Beyar Nationals - Driver : EARL HURLBUT
1974 - Glen 100 Regional, Lime Rock National, Glen National, September Sprints - Driver : EARL HURLBUT
1975 - Glen 100, Lime Rock National, Lime Rock Regional - Driver : EARL HURLBUT
1976 - Glen 100, Lime Rock Regional - Driver : EARL HURLBUT
1978 - Fall festival Regional - Driver : CHIP BOATRIGHT
1979 - Cabin fever Regional – Indianapolis raceway, Blackhawk, Mid-Ohio, Wor Games – Indianapolis raceway - Driver : CHIP BOATRIGHT

thanks.

The only period picture I have :

group/7 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2015, 03:07:50 AM »

I Also Found That Photo Somewhere On The net, Sometime Back. It Always Intrigued Me . Looking At The Paint Job On The Car, Is There A Canadian Connection ? Some Where In It's Life ? I See From What You Have As A log, It Raced Mostly In The States. Or Is It Like The Dick Jordan GT 350 R ? It Had A Green Leaf Logo On The door, as Part Of The Paint. Perhaps Someone Just Liked The Look.

Mike (group/7) In Canada

Jon Mello · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2015, 04:47:42 AM »

Eric, I also think that's the only vintage shot that I have of the car. It might be kind of fun to run your car's VIN through the Vintage Vehicle Services offered by GM Canada. It could tell you if the car was sold new in Canada and what part of the country it was from. I don't know anything about the original driver but it would be good to know if he was a Canadian or American racer.

eb911 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2015, 07:33:52 AM »

Thank you. I think EARL HURLBUT was american. The car was purchased new at a GM showroom in Rome, NY.
I haven't found any Canadian connection so far.

Jon Mello · « **Reply #4 on:** January 14, 2015, 01:47:06 AM »

Don Davidson Motors in Rome, NY? Did you get that information through the NCRS Muscle Docs service?

eb911 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2015, 07:37:58 AM »

No I had it in the docs coming with the car.

group/7 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2015, 07:51:29 PM »

I Ran The Picture And Info Past A Historical Group, I Belong To Here In Canada. So far The Only Two Things That Came up, Was That Earl Hurlbut Was S.C.C.A. N.E. Division Executive Steward In 2011. Chip Boatright, Works For Or Owns GSB Realty In Mundelein Illinois. If They Still Hold These Positions ? ? This Might be Something Your Already Aware Of.

group/7 in Canada

Steve Holmes · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2015, 12:40:57 AM »

There was an Earl Hurlbut who raced a Corvette in the 1977 Watkins Glen 6 Hour sharing with Bob Baechle (#64 gold car pictured). The entry list has both drivers from New York.

Maybe the same guy?

Jon Mello · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2015, 03:32:09 AM »

Wow, who doesn't love a gold race car?

Eric, I sent you an email with the contact info for Earl Hurlbut and Chip Boatright (provided to me courtesy of Vince Howlett). Hopefully you are able to connect with them and they can fill you in on the early history of the car. Good luck!

eb911 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2015, 07:39:15 AM »

Thanks to all you guys, I really appreciate.

Jon Mello · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2015, 08:09:20 PM »

You're welcome. I wonder if it turns out there is some racing history before Earl Hurlbut owned it.

oldtransamdriver · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2015, 10:11:35 PM »

Look at the driver line-up for that race - F1 guys, IMSA guys, Nascar guys, Trans-AM guys, FIA guys - quite the entry.

Robert

eb911 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2015, 08:21:45 AM »

Quote from: Jon Mello on January 15, 2015, 08:09:20 PM

You're welcome. I wonder if it turns out there is some racing history before Earl Hurlbut owned it.

It seems it had been prepared as a TA spec car from the beginning in 1967/68 but the first owner did not finish the car and it was then sold to Hurlbut in 1971 who finished the car the car and raced it.

Jon Mello · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2015, 04:00:00 PM »

Is this something you found out by speaking with Earl Hurlbut or was it information that came with the paperwork that accompanied the car when you purchased it?

eb911 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2015, 04:02:54 PM »

From the paperwork coming with the car. I have sent an email to Earl Hurlbut and Chip Boatright but no answer so far. I might give a cal in the following days.

eb911 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2015, 04:16:33 PM »

I have had the chance to speak with Chip Boatright and exchange few emails with Earl Hurlbut. He purchased the car from the first owner in 1971. It had been prepared to TA specs from new in 1967 but never finished. Earl finished the car in 1972 and raced it at Mosport, Canada, hence the leafs on the car. Then it raced at Lime Rock, Watkins Glen, Blackhawk, Mid-Ohio, Indianapolis, ...

Earl recalls he had been champion in 1976 (probably SCCA Regional

) with the car. He thinks he still has some period pictures and will try to send them to me.

Thanks for your help.

Steve Holmes · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2015, 08:20:19 PM »

Wow, result! Thats fantastic Eric.

group/7 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2015, 03:26:39 AM »

Got Some Feedback From The Historical group Here in Canada, Can't Add Images ! So I'll Quote "There Is A Possibility This Is A Doug Duncan Built Car. His Logo Was "Red Leaf Racing" On A Red Maple Leaf Background And Was Known To Have Built Race Camaro's Other Than The Gorries/TG/Fisher/Penske Car. Note That I Wrote "Possible" Not Probable, Not Knowing For Sure....Cheers Craig "

Every Little Bit Of Info Helps ! Mike (group/7) in Canada

eb911 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2015, 08:36:12 AM »

Wow, thank you Mike.

How could we get further with the potential Doug Duncan connection ?

Earl Hurlbut bought the car in 1971 from Neil Kassel who lived in Syracuse, NY, obviously not so far from Canada.

eb911 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2015, 10:12:30 AM »

Shame on me, I did not remember that there were few period pictures in the original logbooks !! I have just scanned them :

1972 :

VINCE Z28 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2015, 03:03:15 PM »

Hey isn't that Orange triangle a slow moving vehicle sign, as seen on farm equipment?

maroman · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2015, 03:22:15 PM »

They are on all the Amish buggies around here.

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2015, 03:31:27 PM »

Quote from: VINCE Z28 on January 24, 2015, 03:03:15 PM

Hey isn't that Orange triangle a slow moving vehicle sign, as seen on farm equipment?

Doesn't some racing groups require rookies or the slower class cars when multiple classes are running together, to run those alerts? to alert faster drivers that this car might not be moving out of the way fast enough? or ??

oldtransamdriver · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2015, 04:29:05 PM »

I remember that if you were a new novice racer in Ontario, and maybe in other provinces, that you were required to display the triangle sign, to warn the senior drivers
that you were just a rookie. You had to wear the triangle for the required 3 novice races before being eligible for a senior license. Not sure if that is still the case.

So, do we know who the first owner was, who did not complete the car?

Robert

eb911 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2015, 05:00:07 PM »

Yes, the first owner was Harold Becicwith who purchased the car from a dealer in Rome, NY. He started to build the car into a Transam racer but never finished.
The second owner was Neil Kassel, Syracuse, NY who seemed to only briefly own the car to resale it to Earl Hurlbut in 1971 who finished the car and first raced it in Mosport in 1972.

group/7 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2015, 07:27:01 PM »

Hello Robert, I Wondered If You'd Chime In here, Since This Car has Also Been Brought Up On The CMHG Site. These Two Questions Are Directed At Robert (1) Is doug Duncan, How Shall I Put It ? Active. (2) Is The Craig Who Responded To My Query On The CMHG Site, Craig F, Also A Former Trans-Am Driver From Canada.

Mike (group/7)

oldtransamdriver · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2015, 11:47:36 PM »

Mike, sent you a pm.

Robert

eb911 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2015, 07:51:18 AM »

The correct spelling of the first owners name is Harold "Hal" Beckwith.

eb911 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 26, 2015, 02:37:34 PM »

Earl Hurlbut just kindly sent me some period pictures he has found.
He confirmed : "The # 531 photos are from my first school and win at Mosport in Canada in the Spring of 1972. Later that year, I began competing in the U.S. and affixed the Maple leaf décor to honor the Canadian experiences."

He doesn't recall any connection with Doug Duncan.

Jon Mello · « **Reply #29 on:** January 26, 2015, 08:07:38 PM »

Very cool, Eric. Great to see more pics of the car from its early history and that's a nice treat be be able to talk directly with the guy who originally raced it.

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Author Topic: Wanted : pictures of my Camaro in 1972-1979 A Sedan Championship (Read 19549 times)