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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2015, 01:39:06 AM »
My L-35 is a T0I06MY build date. The dipstick is 18 1/8 from the bell top to the add mark. The add and full marks are lines, not two dots. The button is purple and flat.

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2015, 03:45:00 PM »
I might as well throw my 2 cents in here as well.  Looking at my TO131MZ L35 Jan. 31, 67 dipstick, it looks exactly like Mike's TO214 MZ dipstick with the same bends.  (Top picture in his post.)  As well as the same markings, no lines just 2 dots with the "M" that looks like an upside down "W" and measures 18 and one eighth inches from the top of the "bell" to the add mark. Unfortunately the button is missing.  The top portion is painted black.  Don't know if someone did that or not but it looks like it has been there a very long time.  I wonder if there were differences in the MZ California A.I.R. verses others? 

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2015, 03:51:12 PM »
Remember that the dipstick and tube are unrelated to the engine assembly date - they were installed at the car assembly plant.
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2015, 05:40:55 PM »
Remember that the dipstick and tube are unrelated to the engine assembly date - they were installed at the car assembly plant.
John Z,
This brings up a question I have wondered about for some time.
If the production of L35's started on January 1, then how could they assemble engines ( T ), ship them to the plant for dress and installation on the same day?
Does this mean that there are L35's with date codes of T12?? or possibly T11?? and could L78's have earlier dates than T03?? ?
Just how long would the lead time be for bringing an RPO of this type into production? I know that the 396 was in production for use in other models but things like exhaust manifolds and oil pans are specific to Camaro's
Thanks as always. ;D
Bob

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2015, 06:11:40 PM »
You're assuming production started on Jan 1. I've never seen that in writing that I recall.

Lead time - for what aspect? Filling the pipeline, from where to where?
Design to production?
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2015, 07:52:07 PM »
Remember that the dipstick and tube are unrelated to the engine assembly date - they were installed at the car assembly plant.
   Knowing that then I can see how different P/N sticks show up on differently dated motors. It comes down to what is on the motor rack at that time of car assembly (ex: T0214MZ w/04B vs. T0308MW w/05B).

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2015, 08:24:58 PM »
My cars assembly date is 02E

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2015, 09:39:35 PM »
    Here are pictures of the dipstick tubes and of interest is what I assume is the vendors 'O' marking stamp.
Also, the original tube from the 04B LOS car (the 05B car tube was repainted back in the 80's) has black paint over the body with traces down to the tip that is inside the oil pan.
I only mention this because it was stated here that the dipstick tubes were raw. Maybe so with other motors, but the BB looks to have it painted.

  Both tubes from the 04B and 05B (motor dates T0214MZ & T0308MW respectively) are the same shape and both have the 'O' stamp.

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2015, 10:48:41 PM »
Remember that the dipstick and tube are unrelated to the engine assembly date - they were installed at the car assembly plant.
John Z,
This brings up a question I have wondered about for some time.
If the production of L35's started on January 1, then how could they assemble engines ( T ), ship them to the plant for dress and installation on the same day?
Does this mean that there are L35's with date codes of T12?? or possibly T11?? and could L78's have earlier dates than T03?? ?
Just how long would the lead time be for bringing an RPO of this type into production? I know that the 396 was in production for use in other models but things like exhaust manifolds and oil pans are specific to Camaro's
Thanks as always. ;D
Bob

You're assuming production started on Jan 1. I've never seen that in writing that I recall.

Lead time - for what aspect? Filling the pipeline, from where to where?
Design to production?
Kerts,
You are correct, that is why I started the question with If. I was hoping that someone would correct my assumption. Do you know when the first L35 was stamped for Camaro production? Do you know what week the first L35 was built. How about the first ones you have in the data base for both questions?
As for lead time, from the date stamp on the first L35 engine at the Tonawanda NY engine plant to the engine holding area at Norwood or would that be based on number of engines ordered by Nor? I would imagine that they were sent to Nor. in batches. ;D
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2015, 04:16:22 PM »
Do you know what week the first L35 was built.

Closest I can pin it to for Camaro is November 1966, so yes, there may be some T11 L35 67 Camaro's.
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2015, 06:00:58 PM »
As far as the correct 67 Big block dipstick tube, The parts list states 3899640 for 396/427 except HP. I could not find a tube for HP. Is it the same tube?
According to the 1967 AIM, the L78 engine tube is the same as the L35.  My July 1969 Master Parts Catalog for Camaro list only one part number for the 396ci and it is 3899640.

The 67 tube is 1 7/8" shorter than the 69. As is the Salmon vs. the yellow stick.
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2015, 08:16:41 PM »
The dipstick top and tube assembly on my TO131MZ 396 (03C) has definite black paint all the way down.  This has never been out of the car and neither has the engine.

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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2015, 01:14:43 AM »
Do you know what week the first L35 was built.

Closest I can pin it to for Camaro is November 1966, so yes, there may be some T11 L35 67 Camaro's.
That's bad info.
First cars were in Jan.
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2015, 02:55:10 AM »
For years and years I heard rumors of a December 66 built 396 Camaro, but never saw any proof.  

Ever piece of data I have seen says the 67 Camaro with the 396 option did not start until sometime in January of 1967.  First L78 I think was March of 1967.
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Re: Correct Dip stick
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2015, 09:54:05 PM »
LVN 67 has an engine date stamp of T0106 and a build date of 02E. Does anyone have a production engine assembly date earlier than that? 
I know CRG has some January 01? body builds on file. I wonder what the engine dates are on them, as it took 7 weeks to get the engine into LVN's 02E build.;D
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