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if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« on: December 09, 2014, 10:12:49 PM »
  Them ole Camaros,  best damn sporty car for the buck avalable to us US Americans,  but--Nothing is perfect.....
 Myself -I have always been pre-occupied with styling, and annoyed by  styling glitches that seem  last minute additions to clay full scale models added my ignoramous's'

The 67-and 8 got pretty close to perfect proportions for what they were, but having sufferd the same  abuse all you guys also agonized over..door dings...... The crease running down the length i would have  smoothed over and eliminated,  also since i have done custom pieces like a road racing front faring -even before  , I did not like the indented wheel well lips stamped in just to fit  the tacky  wheel opening trim ,  i would have just had a 1/2" flat vertical edge all the way around , those are the two basic changes i wish the cars had when they came out,  but i can turn my imagination loose,,,, You guys would not believe what would have been

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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 10:15:30 PM »
Well..  if I had to drive a '67 or '68 (and couldn't get hold of a great '69),.. :)    I'd probably make it similar to this one... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvAkUupnKw

(of course, I'd probably need a little of Tim Allen's or Jay Leno's $$ to do it...  :)
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 10:40:55 PM »
Why??? Why would you want to redesign a 67 or 68 or 69, when there are still so many 80s cars on the road that were designed by government regulations and the business office?
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 11:23:45 PM »
80's cars are *ugly*...  :)
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 11:32:14 PM »
Well..  if I had to drive a '67 or '68 (and couldn't get hold of a great '69),.. :)    I'd probably make it similar to this one... :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvAkUupnKw



(of course, I'd probably need a little of Tim Allen's or Jay Leno's $$ to do it...  :)





 

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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 12:38:27 AM »
1967 - wouldn't change a thing.
1968 - why mess with perfection.
1969 - redesign to look more like a 7 or 8.

Seriously though why change them.  Their differences are what make them great.

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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 02:33:45 AM »
I don't really think I would change much with the styling.  Would have been nice to have had a factory 427 in 67 and 68 though.   ;D

70 wasn't bad either.   :)
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2014, 02:37:10 AM »
1967 - wouldn't change a thing.
1968 - why mess with perfection.
1969 - redesign to look more like a 7 or 8.

Seriously though why change them.  Their differences are what make them great.

 I agree for the most part with Cook.
One major thing if I could go back in time to all the manufacturers would be to increase the wheel well size specifically in the rear, but considering trans am, how about on all 4 corners. The 65 mustang only came with 14" wheels and a 225 tire is pushing it on those. Even my 66 chevelle or the early novas , the engineers could have probably had the same cost of assembly and made the inner tubs bigger.
I also think this would have saved a lot of corvettes camaros and the like from the big flared fender rage of the 70's. Just my 2 cents from seeing a lot of hack jobs and fab work over the years.
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 02:52:49 AM »
I'm in Bullitt's camp. larger wheel wells. you can fit a little more meat under 69's then 7's or 8's I think.  Other then that love the lines, just one of those cars that don't have a bad angle. I like the vent windows on 67's.
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 03:39:03 AM »
from the raw type design of the 67 - the refined mechanics with addition of the L89 for 68, the RS trim and large mouldings dressed the 68's out, then 69 was sharper, appeared wider and with the wheel opening shape of a flat top coupled with the gentle tapered peaks from front to rear the car appears to be moving even when standing still...

I never appreciated the 69's until I started restoring them, the body lines on a 69 are unlike any other car...

Give me a 68 RS/SS L89 4.10 or 4.56 m20.
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 04:43:36 AM »
1967 - wouldn't change a thing.
1968 - why mess with perfection.
1969 - redesign to look more like a 7 or 8.

Seriously though why change them.  Their differences are what make them great.
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 12:34:57 PM »
Give me a 68 RS/SS L89 4.10 or 4.56 m20.

Not an RS or L89 but its a 4.56 & a 69 CEL78 with a bench seat!  If I had the income I would snatch this one up.

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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 01:16:57 PM »
Darrell,

I have to agree..   that's a helluva car... L78 with bench seat 4 speed... and looks great...
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2014, 03:26:48 PM »

One major thing if I could go back in time to all the manufacturers would be to increase the wheel well size specifically in the rear, but considering trans am, how about on all 4 corners. Even my 66 chevelle or the early novas , the engineers could have probably had the same cost of assembly and made the inner tubs bigger.

Remember that:

1. "Big tires" didn't exist in the early-to-mid-60's - they were all skinny, for ride comfort.

2. Making the inner rear wheelhouse tubs wider would have compromised the rear seat hip room dimension and reduced the cubic capacity number for the trunk, and those were important in the 60's.
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Re: if you could go back and redesign the 67/8 .. or that other one,
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 04:18:51 PM »

Remember that:
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2. Making the inner rear wheelhouse tubs wider would have compromised the rear seat hip room dimension ..............

 I agree. It was cramped enough spending time in the back seat at the drive-ins back in my youthful wild days  ( Mike checks over his shoulder for the wife's whereabouts )  :D I can only image how cramped it would be if it was narrower!

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