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barsteel

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 10:34:04 PM »
As promised, more pics....

Looking forward to more commentary and opinions.

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 10:51:37 PM »
and one more...

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 11:16:06 PM »
CRG, when exactly in 1968 did power brakes become mandatory on SS396 cars?

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 11:38:43 PM »
Cut and Paste from the Chassis section:

Manual drum brakes on all four wheels remained standard for all models except Z28 and mid-year SS396. RPO J50 power assist remained a separate option for drum brakes, but RPO J52 front disc brakes now included RPO J50, and thus all 1968 disc brakes were also power disc brakes. This was the last year for the 4-piston disc brake calipers. The disc brake emblem appeared on the brake pedal of disc brake equipped cars in the January / February 68 timeframe.

Initially, SS models did not require any brake options. That changed when power brakes were required on SS396 models per the  April 1968 ordering information.
For Z28, RPO J52 front disc brakes were a mandatory option.



The cowl tag indicates an early April build, so the car may or may not have had power brakes.  Maybe someone with some more experience than me can chime in...

Chris


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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 03:32:08 AM »
http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Brakes
"Initially, SS models did not require any brake options. That changed when power brakes were required on SS396 models per the April 1968 ordering information."
How/when that got implemented is another issue. There's not enough solid data to show when, especially since you are trying to find the 'not' case (not equipped with J50).
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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 04:41:21 AM »
Tire sticker looks good for SS car f70-14. All 68 big block cars had only one fuel line. Now for a neat trick look at page 283 in 68 assembly manual look at number 3 on page. Big block fuel line were held in place by clip which line snapped in held on by a rivet. Small block cars were held on by clamp which was held buy a bolt.  Would post a picture but never been able do. Cook is dead on the stripe. Have known his dad's car since 1980 great original paint car. Maybe somebody can post the picture for you from the manual. Good luck!

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 06:14:16 AM »
I'll try anything once - maybe this will work.

Page 283 from the AIM -

Regards -
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 12:19:33 PM »
What is the fuel line size for the 68 big block cars?

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 12:43:28 PM »
Now for a neat trick look at page 283 in 68 assembly manual look at number 3 on page. Big block fuel line were held in place by clip which line snapped in held on by a rivet. Small block cars were held on by clamp which was held buy a bolt.


That is what I was getting at when I asked for a pic of the fuel line on the subframe.   ;D 



What is the fuel line size for the 68 big block cars?

67L78


3/8"

barsteel

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 10:00:28 PM »
From what I remember, the fuel pump had a piece of rubber hose running to it from the gas line, which seemed to have been cut off before it got to the motor mount, so I can't really comment on how it was or may have been attached to the frame.

Let me see if the owner can let me know if it's 3/8 or 5/16 line.  I'm pretty sure it was 3/8, since I had to struggle to move it out of the way to measure the motor mount.

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2014, 11:34:57 PM »
Ok, looks like the thread has run out of steam.

So...looks to me like the general consensus is that the car is most likely an SS...if no, someone has gone through a LOT of trouble to make it appear as on.

So...what would you guys offer for it, understanding that rust free cars DO NOT exist in the Northeast.  His comments to me were "high 20s"...I'm thinking more like mid-20s...maybe $26.5.

Thoughts?

Thanks to everyone for their posts.

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2014, 03:05:12 AM »
It doesn't sound like it's going anywhere fast. I would suggest looking at a handful of more cars to compare cost, originality, and  which car matches what you are looking for the best for the money
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2014, 12:01:35 AM »
Bullitt -

Agreed.

Hope you guys don't mind a few more similar threads from me...

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2014, 02:39:01 AM »
We love pictures, so as long as your future threads include pics were good.... ;D We all like to see the right car with the right guy. Good luck in your search!
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2014, 07:23:34 PM »
Hello -

Managed to get some pics of the fuel line from the owner.

Of course, they're too large to post here, although I'm trying to resize them.

Anyway, all of the clips that I can see in the pics are riveted to the frame.  Does the bolt (small block) vs. rivet fasten (big block) to the frame apply only to the engine compartment along the cross member, or all along the length of the fuel line?

Thanks...

Chris

ps. If anyone can tell me how to resize pics, I'd appreciate it.  I can crop them to reduce the size, but they're so big that I'd have to crop them so small that you probably couldn't tell what you were looking at.