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New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« on: November 17, 2014, 04:17:07 AM »
Hello!

This is my first posting.  I’ve loved old cars since I was young, and have owned over 10 in the past 12 years, and have successfully done a fair amount of work to all of them, including engine rebuilds, rewires, tranny rebuilds, tranny and rear end swaps, front end rebuilds, etc.

A few months ago I realized that I had too many cars that I “kinda” liked, but rarely drove.  I decided that it was time to go after the car I’d wanted since high school, and that was a 1st gen Camaro.  I sold 3 of my cars, a ’41 Chevy Coupe, a ’53 Chevy ½ ton 5 window, and a ’52 Plymouth and started looking, and that’s why I’m posting.

I was chatting with one of the fathers from my daughter’s soccer team, and the subject of cars came up.  Turns out that his father passed away a few years ago, he was now trying to liquidate some of his father’s collection, and one of those cars was a ’68 big block Super Sport Camaro 4spd w/a posi rear.  It was former Barrett-Jackson car sold in ’08.  If you search on the VIN (below), you’ll find the auction.

Long story short, I did about 4 hours or research on what to look for, and just went to see the car.  It’s nice…I’m interested, but, because it’s a 68 that won’t have any code on the cowl tag to ID is as an SS, I want to make absolutely sure it’s a real SS, at least to the extent that I can.  Below is what I’ve got, and I’m looking for opinions…real SS or not?  Worth it or not?  Asking price will be in the high $20s.

Vin:  124378N410626 – Norwood build, original V8 car

Cowl tag (pictured) – First week of April build, standard black bucket seats, lemans blue

Engine code T0304MY – NON original 396/325HP March 4 build, automatic car – other number sequence does NOT match the VIN.

Car is advertised as having a 375HP 396 – and it DOES have a factory aluminum intake manifold with the correct snowflake casting, so it may have been built to 375HP specs

Carb is a Holley 4bbl with mechanical secondaries – air horn is marked LIST 4779-2 2126

Block casting # 3935440 (hard to read, but the last 3 numbers were definitely 440)

Tranny not original either - Borg-Warner with a 5-30-79 casting date on it, the sequence MLT1198A.  Casting # is 1304065908.  Also says WG Div  FC 4.  Driver’s side pad is stamped with F2992.  Most likely a Super T-10.

There IS a reinforcement ring around the shifter hole on the underside of the floor indicating that the car originally had a floor shifter hole

Rear end is a 12 bolt, code is BT032502, with an E underneath – which IDs it as a 3.55 Eaton posi unit from March 25, which seems to jive with the VIN date.  I don’t know what the “02” at the end stands for, although the zero could have been a 6 or a G, very hard to read.

Rear springs have 5 leaves.

Driver’s side motor mount is taller than the pass side motor mount,  2” vs. 1 3/8 as close as I could measure, indicating big block engine mounts.  The don’t appear to have been replaced, but I can’t guarantee it

Speedo cable passes through the “Muncie” hole in the firewall

Big block heater core – feed pipes come out in the middle of the cover vs the extreme right hand side

Radiator has a 23” core

Tires pressure sticker on the inside of the glove box has the “AH” code in the bowtie and the correct F70x14RL tire for the SS

The duals hangers are held to the frame with what seem to be threaded holes in the rear frame rails – on BOTH sides, indicating an original dual exhaust

Hood has the correct big block snorkel trim vs. the ribbed trim - I included a pic of the underside of the hood.

Hood does NOT have SS springs – there are 28 vs. 26, at least how I counted.  Don’t know if I was counting correctly

Hood did NOT have any insulation on it

Interior has no gauges and car has 4 wheel manual drum brakes – neither necessary for an SS, just wanted to mention it

Car appears to have original paint except for below the lowest body countour, which was retouched – I could not find overspray ANYWHERE around emblems, window trim, lights, wheel wells, etc.  Paint color is consistent under trunk lid, on door jambs, hinges, etc.

The rear light panel is painted black, as it should be for a big block SS

Car has a spoiler – don’t know if it’s original

Wheels appear to be original rally rims with center caps and beauty rings.

Overall, the car is in very nice DRIVER condition.  No major rot, paint is 90% with a very few small rust spots, interior is very good.  Floor is very solid, although the underside looks like it was hit several times with black paint or the rubberized undercoating.

Real?  Clone?  Worth the price?  Not?

Sorry for the long post, just trying to be as complete as possible.

Thanks…

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 04:22:49 AM »
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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 04:53:10 PM »
Without original engine or transmission there is no way to document the car it is worth whatever you are willing to pay for it, get a second opinion, original pant is big no way to fake that good luck. You did not say how much they are asking but nice car, thanks Darrell

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 05:02:21 PM »
Welcome to the site.
 It looks like you have done a bit of research already, so you are on the right track. Chick, Darrell or one of the many 68 owners on here will help quite a bit with what is correct for a 68 SS. I would look over the CRG research pages there is always great kernels of information to pour over, and learn from there.

Value wise I can add a little bit of input. This all comes down to how you want to use the car, or what your intensions are for acquiring it. If you are looking to purchase a 1st gen to have fun with and then sell it a few years down the road, this could be your car. If you are more interested in the money to be made or to be recouped then a numbers matching drive train(motor, train, rear end), would seem to make more sense.

IMO I don't know how much more a original BB SS car is worth with a replaced motor and trans VS. a base model V8 Camaro that has a had a BB and SS trim added to it. I would think the difference price wise would be negligible.
I think for the current condition of this car with such items replaced, and a bit of driving wear on it (undercoating small rust spots) high $20's seems pricey. I don't see a motor pic, but from the pics I would think low $20's would be more inline. (maybe less)

In the end if you really like the car make him an offer of what the car is worth to you, knowing you can pay more if you wish for a numbers matching example with less road wear.
Other guys will chime to help you out here as the days go on.
Good luck!
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 06:14:03 PM by BULLITT65 »
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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 05:07:25 PM »
What size fuel line or lines does it have?

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 05:49:54 PM »
Thanks to all for the replies.

L78 - I don't know what size the fuel line is...guess I missed reading about that one.  What size gas line should a BB SS have vs. a SB SS?

Bullitt - This car will be a driver.  Sure, I don't want to lose my shirt on it if I decide to sell it in a few years, but I'm not looking to buy it to flip it.

Jock - The price thrown about was "high 20s", but no firm number mentioned.

Here's a link the B-J auction page from 2008.  There is NO WAY I would have paid $51.7K for this car, but the economy in 2008 was a lot stronger than it is now.  I believe that they serve free drinks at those events, and that's the reason for it! 

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1968-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-SS-COUPE-64432

My "dream car" would be a '67 RS/SS Big block, but that's like finding a hen's tooth, and I'm certain that it would be near impossible to find a driveable/decent on in the mid-high 20s, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Keep the opinions coming.

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 06:07:03 PM »
I have my doubts its a true big block.  Its definitely been repainted or at least the stripe has been.  Also fenders have been replaced.  Camaro script and SS emblems are in different locations on each side.  Get a pic of the fuel line coming up on the subframe and to the fuel pump.  Also get a pic of the underside of the trunk where the spoiler bolts to the lid on the pass side.  From the pic I dont see an emblem which means the spoiler was added afterward.  Also could be iffy but car was built around the same time that power assist brakes were mandatory for big blocks.  Does it have the valve on the driver side of subframe in the brake line?  Also get detailed pics of the black tailpan paint lines in the trunk area and behind the bumper.  Also wheels look to be 15x8's which were not original.

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 07:22:32 PM »
Cook - NOT trying to challenge or argue, just want to clarify...

How can you tell that the stripe has been repainted?  I could feel a paint line on it when I ran my fingers over it, don't know if the original stripe was supposed to be painted or a sticker.

When I inspected the paint, I looked in all the places that you'd normally find a tape line and/or overspray...none on the window fuzzies, around either window molding, weather stripping, any of the emblems, the radiator support, any part of the inner fenders, hinges, jambs, etc.  If this is a repaint, the car must have had the entire body, drive train, and interior stripped.

I did notice that there was no sticker with directions for changing the spare on the underside of the trunk lid...my understanding is that there should be one.

I looked at both pics, and it seems to me that both emblems are in the same location on both sides, although to me, it's kind of hard to tell from the pics, as they don't provide a "straight on" shot of both sides.

I inspected the tailpan paint lines pretty closely...what would I be looking for?

Chris

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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 08:07:22 PM »
Not up on the 68 cars that much but a 375 horse would have one 3/8 inch line. A 325 horse car with a quadrajet would have two lines. Not sure about the 350 horse cars. Somebody help on this size please. Now i'm talking about big block engines.

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 08:19:47 PM »
Disclaimer:  I am not saying that what I say is gospel but just my opinion.


The stripes are too wide on the turn all the way to the doors.  Plus the emblems are not in the correct position on the fenders.  Stripes are painted on the upper valance and on the front of the wheel openings.  Decal on the backside and on doors. 



Example of the emblems in relation to stripe on known original paint car vs your pic.





Also the return fuel line didnt start until 69.

 

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 08:54:49 PM »
I think the axle is original to the car. So probably an SS. No way to prove much more, so it really comes down to condition and what you want....
Price seems realistic.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 02:54:47 AM »
Rear end is a 12 bolt, code is BT032502, with an E underneath – which IDs it as a 3.55 Eaton posi unit from March 25, which seems to jive with the VIN date.  I don’t know what the “02” at the end stands for, although the zero could have been a 6 or a G, very hard to read.

Probably a G2 after the date.
G=Detroit Gear and Axle
2=2nd shift

Like Kurt said the axle look good but no way to prove it is a real SS. My take is that unless someone went through all of the trouble to change out to multileaf rear springs, heater box, and radiator and not just the engine and trans, so I have to agree with KurtS  there is a good probability it is a real SS, but no way to prove it.

http://www.camaros.org/diffs68.shtml


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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 03:12:00 AM »
Welcome aboard Chris!
Agree with Darrell about the stripes and would be advantageous to see the engine bay if for anything else but to help determine value but Kurt summed it up pretty well. A lot of this depends on what you want! It would seem with what you have communicated (nice job by the way) the car was an SS Camaro. On the other hand, a nice driver SS without the original engine & trans will always be by many a questionable SS without the original engine and trans. But cars like this are much easier to get into $$ wise, and enjoy.
With that part out of the way, I would spend time checking floors, mechanicals, and bodywork as that is the area that on a car like this can make it or break it.  
Good luck Chris and welcome again!
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 05:08:45 PM »
Re: hood & hood springs.  The SS hood is heavier then the regular hood...thus the need for SS hood springs.  If you are not sure it's correct, try opening the hood part way (in several different positions).  If the springs are incorrect the hood usually has trouble staying in place in the partially opened positions. 

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 09:43:19 PM »
Joe - good point.  The hood didn't have any problem staying open when I raised it, but it also didn't have the underhood insulation like it should.  If the springs were replaced at some point, they may have removed the insulation to help the  hood stay up.

I'll try to get some pics of the engine compartment.

Unfortunately for me, the car is in Delaware and I'm in CT.  I happened to be in Baltimore for business, so I rented a car and drove the 2 hours to see it.  Getting any additional pics will be difficult, although the owner did send me some engine pics before I went to see the car.  I'll try to get him to resend them to me.

Chris

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 10:34:04 PM »
As promised, more pics....

Looking forward to more commentary and opinions.

Chris

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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 10:51:37 PM »
and one more...

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 11:16:06 PM »
CRG, when exactly in 1968 did power brakes become mandatory on SS396 cars?

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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 11:38:43 PM »
Cut and Paste from the Chassis section:

Manual drum brakes on all four wheels remained standard for all models except Z28 and mid-year SS396. RPO J50 power assist remained a separate option for drum brakes, but RPO J52 front disc brakes now included RPO J50, and thus all 1968 disc brakes were also power disc brakes. This was the last year for the 4-piston disc brake calipers. The disc brake emblem appeared on the brake pedal of disc brake equipped cars in the January / February 68 timeframe.

Initially, SS models did not require any brake options. That changed when power brakes were required on SS396 models per the  April 1968 ordering information.
For Z28, RPO J52 front disc brakes were a mandatory option.



The cowl tag indicates an early April build, so the car may or may not have had power brakes.  Maybe someone with some more experience than me can chime in...

Chris


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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 03:32:08 AM »
http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Brakes
"Initially, SS models did not require any brake options. That changed when power brakes were required on SS396 models per the April 1968 ordering information."
How/when that got implemented is another issue. There's not enough solid data to show when, especially since you are trying to find the 'not' case (not equipped with J50).
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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 04:41:21 AM »
Tire sticker looks good for SS car f70-14. All 68 big block cars had only one fuel line. Now for a neat trick look at page 283 in 68 assembly manual look at number 3 on page. Big block fuel line were held in place by clip which line snapped in held on by a rivet. Small block cars were held on by clamp which was held buy a bolt.  Would post a picture but never been able do. Cook is dead on the stripe. Have known his dad's car since 1980 great original paint car. Maybe somebody can post the picture for you from the manual. Good luck!

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 06:14:16 AM »
I'll try anything once - maybe this will work.

Page 283 from the AIM -

Regards -
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 12:19:33 PM »
What is the fuel line size for the 68 big block cars?

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 12:43:28 PM »
Now for a neat trick look at page 283 in 68 assembly manual look at number 3 on page. Big block fuel line were held in place by clip which line snapped in held on by a rivet. Small block cars were held on by clamp which was held buy a bolt.


That is what I was getting at when I asked for a pic of the fuel line on the subframe.   ;D 



What is the fuel line size for the 68 big block cars?

67L78


3/8"

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014, 10:00:28 PM »
From what I remember, the fuel pump had a piece of rubber hose running to it from the gas line, which seemed to have been cut off before it got to the motor mount, so I can't really comment on how it was or may have been attached to the frame.

Let me see if the owner can let me know if it's 3/8 or 5/16 line.  I'm pretty sure it was 3/8, since I had to struggle to move it out of the way to measure the motor mount.

Chris

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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2014, 11:34:57 PM »
Ok, looks like the thread has run out of steam.

So...looks to me like the general consensus is that the car is most likely an SS...if no, someone has gone through a LOT of trouble to make it appear as on.

So...what would you guys offer for it, understanding that rust free cars DO NOT exist in the Northeast.  His comments to me were "high 20s"...I'm thinking more like mid-20s...maybe $26.5.

Thoughts?

Thanks to everyone for their posts.

Chris

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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2014, 03:05:12 AM »
It doesn't sound like it's going anywhere fast. I would suggest looking at a handful of more cars to compare cost, originality, and  which car matches what you are looking for the best for the money
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2014, 12:01:35 AM »
Bullitt -

Agreed.

Hope you guys don't mind a few more similar threads from me...

Chris

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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2014, 02:39:01 AM »
We love pictures, so as long as your future threads include pics were good.... ;D We all like to see the right car with the right guy. Good luck in your search!
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2014, 07:23:34 PM »
Hello -

Managed to get some pics of the fuel line from the owner.

Of course, they're too large to post here, although I'm trying to resize them.

Anyway, all of the clips that I can see in the pics are riveted to the frame.  Does the bolt (small block) vs. rivet fasten (big block) to the frame apply only to the engine compartment along the cross member, or all along the length of the fuel line?

Thanks...

Chris

ps. If anyone can tell me how to resize pics, I'd appreciate it.  I can crop them to reduce the size, but they're so big that I'd have to crop them so small that you probably couldn't tell what you were looking at.


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« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2014, 07:38:19 PM »
You can send me the pics and I can post them if needed.

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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2014, 07:42:32 PM »
Cook -

Thanks for your help.

Emails sent, total of 8 pics.

Chris

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« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2014, 10:52:56 PM »
The last 4 pics do not mean much as far as documentation.  But the clip on the frame mount is a positive sign. Bad thing is they cut the fuel line and spliced in a section of line in that same area as well as there is no bolted clip on the top of the frame that holds the line.  In the end you will always have doubt without documentation, ownership history and/or original drivetrain.



















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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2014, 08:32:07 PM »
Hello!

I want to revisit this thread after reading the "67 - 69 fuel line" thread a few spaces below this one.

Based on what I'm seeing, it seems that a 68 L78 car (which is what the subject car of this thread claims to be), should have the fuel line mounted to the cross member on the passenger's side by a metal strap held in place by one of the motor mount bolts.  Am I correct?

I ask because that's what I'm seeing on Cook_dw's '68 L78 and Z28Z11's '69 L78 (or at least the remains of the clip)and Rare396Bronze seems to agree as well, although I don't know if Bronze's car is an L78.

OTOH, Vince and Marty seem to have BB cars ('69 L78 and '68 L35) with fuel lines bolted to the crossmember itself, but both of those cars are Los Angeles cars vs. Norwood.

Is there a definitive finding that says a '68 L78 car should have the fuel line bolted to the cross member on the pass side with a strap held down by a motor mount bolt?

I'd like to know because the car that started this thread has that strap bolted to the PS motor mount, which would put another check in the "Original SS BB" column"


On a separate note, I ordered a shipping report for this car from the NCRS, and it should be here in a few days.  I'm going to see where the car was delivered, and see if I can chase down some information from that angle.

I also called Barret Jackson to see if they had any info on my car other than what's listed on the 2008 auction page I found, but they said that they couldn't disclose any information.

The quest continues...

Chris

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2014, 09:35:36 PM »
Based on what I'm seeing, it seems that a 68 L78 car (which is what the subject car of this thread claims to be), should have the fuel line mounted to the cross member on the passenger's side by a metal strap held in place by one of the motor mount bolts.  Am I correct?

Chris

Yes and No.



You can not hang your hat on just that clip.  To help answer a little further.

I feel the clip on the frame mount was used on all 67 & 68 big block cars.  One thing that concerns me is the fact the fuel line was cut in that area as well as I do not see a clip or bolt or even a hole for said items on the top of the frame that secures the line.  So yes this could be a big block car.  Unfortunately, that is not enough evidence to sufficiently say that it is 100% without a doubt a big block car.  What you need with any of these cars anymore is documented ownership history, original drivetrain and/or original paperwork.  Of course the best is all three but sometimes 1 or 2 out of the 3 is enough when all other items check out and nothing seems shady or fishy.  Hope that helps.


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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2014, 10:33:58 PM »
Cook -

Thanks as always for your response.  My reply is below...Please don't take my tone as confrontational or defensive, I'm just trying to say what I'm thinking and why.  Besides, I'm still a noob, and don't want to rattle anyone's cage right out of the gate.

As always, I welcome all responses and opinions, as long as they're polite and on point.

In the first 2 pics that you were kind enough to resize and post for me (thanks again), I see a metal strap on the PS motor mount that's held down by the rear motor mount bolt, which would be consistent with the gas line hold-down for a big block L78 car, based on pics from other  members cars', and that's why I posted.  I don't know what else that strap would be for other than a fuel line.

I realize that without the original engine and/or transmission, or some other type of factory documentation with the VIN on it you cannot make an absolutely definitive ID.  What I am trying to at this point is to check as many boxes as possible that would ID the car as a true BB SS, and at this point, the car has passed all the tests except for the hood springs.

If someone disagrees, please school me, but it would seem that the likelihood of someone going through and making ALL of the changes listed necessary to ID the car as a SS BB would be unlikely.  I think it's unlikely not only because the cost and aggravation necessary to make all those changes, but also because auction description states that the seller had owned the car for 26 years.  With an '08 sale date, that would put that owner's purchase of the car at 1982.  While Camaros have always been desirable, this car would have been maybe a $4 - $6K car in '82, and it doesn't make sense that someone would go through all that cost and aggravation for a $4 - $6K car.  The engine/transmission are NOT recent, so it doesnt appear to me as if someone dolled up a plain jane Camaro recently to make sale.

Anyone agree or disagree?

Thank you!

Chris


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Re: New guy - Hello! Need opinions - is it a real SS?
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2014, 04:25:44 AM »
My 68 big block car is a 68 L35 Norwood car.

 

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