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BULLITT65

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2014, 09:37:08 PM »
Maybe it was traded after the fact. Or while it was in production.
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-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2014, 09:49:08 PM »
Toad is the Zone #11 and Dealer # 108 ? on NCRS it shows  Zone 11, Dealer 411 for Nickey.
I noticed that also...originally ordered by a dealer in Elmhurst, Ill.
Jerry G.

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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2014, 09:55:55 PM »
Ok  may be a little confusing but the car was sold second at Nickey Chevrolet as per the documents I seen, there is a Pop with the car as well but for a second owner, it does not have the drive train info on the plate, just Women's name and address.I will post some more pictures.

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2014, 10:00:46 PM »
The engine vin is 472189

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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 10:34:25 PM »
Ok here's a picture of the casting date of the block, it was very hard to get this so it is a bit blurry.
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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 10:41:29 PM »
toad if you are a mac user you can take a screen shot and resize it to upload. It might help, it might not. just a suggestion.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2014, 11:06:23 PM »
Thank you I am. I should probably post the pics as a link but I don't own the car yet so I'm just keeping it in this site. Thnx Bullitt

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2014, 11:08:25 PM »
Are you still apprehensive about the car? What if I may ask is holding you back? ( I assume it is a fair asking price and you have the amount)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2014, 11:54:53 PM »
Were very close to making a deal so i'm very nervous right now. It is alot of money for me but I do know what these cars are worth. thnx for consideration

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2014, 12:25:20 AM »
Toad....if you need some help on the numbers on this car you need to share the full VIN number on the dash, the partial on the engine, the partial hidden VIN numbers, the serial number on the broadcast sheet, and the full trim tag also.  The engine number you shared earlier (472189) is 3310 prior to the Vin number on my 07C car.

Here is the information you have shared up to now,

     engine block cast date        F28 - I think that's what it looked like
     engine assembly date         07-10
     engine VIN                        472189
     car assembly date              07C

Here is how it compares to my 07C Z28

     engine block cast date        F138
     engine assembly date         06-19
     engine VIN                        475499    - This is the same as the dash VIN and the partial hidden VINs on my car  
Jerry G.

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2nd. Owner, 38,000 miles

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2014, 01:21:20 AM »
That seems pretty far off being built the same week? Unless there was a odd month where all the cars that month were dated 7C. Jerry please enlighten me on how the numbers of his car could still be possible with his having the same build week. thanks
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-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2014, 02:10:23 AM »
Well....I know that my car was completed and shipped on a Monday after the third week, so that would probably place it as starting assembly later in the third week.  The other car might have been started on a Monday so that would leave several days between the cars.  Presuming they made 912 cars per day, there could be more that 3000 VINs different between the two.  Now the engine cast dates being close, but the assembly dates so far apart baffles me......especially since his car was made before mine but his engine was made 20 days after mine.  Now that one is going to take some thinking.  The only thing I can see is if a later batch of engines were placed in the que before some older ones at the assembly plant.....his got the later engine and mine got the older engine. 

That's what I can imagine without knowing exactly how the assembly process played out.  Maybe someone else might chime in and have some better idea.
Jerry G.

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2nd. Owner, 38,000 miles

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2014, 03:39:51 AM »
Maybe it was traded after the fact. Or while it was in production.
Had a thought.....we know that the rear stripes are wrong so it was repainted at one time. It could have been in a rear end accident and got repainted that way.  We also know that it was traded or sold before the warranty expired because the original dealer was not Nickey and Toad said that Nickey Chevrolet reissued the POP in the second owners name.  Per normal procedure, when a car was sold with warranty remaining, the dealer reissued the POP in the new owners name but none of the factory information was included on the POP....just the name and address only.  Toad did state that the POP with the car was in that condition.
Jerry G.

Z28-1968-07C-Norwood
Ermine White, Red Std. Interior
2nd. Owner, 38,000 miles

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2014, 04:46:54 AM »

thanks for the insight on production probables.

Toad FYI as far as worth. One way to figure it out is what is it worth to you if it is all numbers matching. And then what is it's current market value, which is what you are referring to. They did not make as many 68 Z cars as 69, but they still seem to go for a little less in the market place. For the average 68 Z that is numbers matching I would say 35k to 50k, would be a good range, originality or cowl induction, rare color (corvette bronze) would account for the higher prices. This would be a basic idea for you. others may have a different evaluation ...
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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Re: Broadcast sheets, VIN sequence and build dates
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2014, 02:26:42 PM »
Thanks everyone for your input, all of you have been helpful. My gut instinct is telling me at $45K It's a fair but "edgy" investment. Factor in the pure Love of raw originality and the sound of an all original 302ci, and I'd have to lean on the purchase. In Fifteen to Twenty years, I'm gambling that I will at least have a Savings account on the price and maybe just maybe an investment.
Thnx