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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 11:38:04 PM »

On a local level, of the three Pacers that were owned in this area, two had A/C, one did not. All three are small blocks.


I believe I knew 2 of those local cars personally..   Wink Grin

And the other one casually, whether you've actually seen it or not -

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1969 Z28 X77 LeMans/W
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1969 Z11 L48
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 11:51:11 PM »

Yes, again just my opinion and I'm not really in the loop with the latest price guides and auction results for pace cars but I believe a real, original docs, numbers matching big block, non A/C, Z/11 (especially a 4 spd car) is worth 10K more than an equivalent small block pace with A/C. I think that is a fair number.
Without giving away the location of the cars you are looking at do you have any more info or photos that you can share as far as condition and options
to compare with?


I don't disagree with the worth of a BB in comparison to an A/C equipped SB Z-11, but I would make dang sure it was an original BB car before I turned down a SB w/ A/C in deference to a made-up BB. Too many transplants around to try and make more money from the unsuspecting and/or enthusiastic buyer. I like the ability to roll up the windows and cruise in comfort (especially since my age has crept up on me).
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2014, 08:20:21 AM »

Good point! One has to do there homework, the fakers will sure screw a fella over if they get the chance.
As much as I would love to own a legit big block pace car today the one I had was a pretty rust free, original paint car. I found it in the 90's. It was an original numbers matching, small block Z/11 with A/C. If i would have known then what I know now I might not have even restored it and left it as a survivor. I did do a complete frame off restoration with Lacquer paint. In 1999 I took it to a Charlie Daniels celebrity charity event that included a car show. All of the celebrities judged and picked there favorite car. The biker/construction worker with the beard that was on Home Improvement picked my car. I can't think of his name right now but he said he almost bought one just like it new back in 69. He took pictures with me and the car and signed autographs. I sold that car for $26K in 2000. They escalated in price shortly thereafter. There have been many times I wish I still had it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2014, 03:49:40 AM »

Your car had the AC added to it when it lived in AZ. Sold new in CO.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 04:54:04 PM »

Hi just got a chance to check back in on this. That is very interesting how were you able to find that info Kurt? Anything you can share with me?
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2014, 12:48:47 AM »

The car was on ebay before.
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