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Air cleaner Decal needed
« on: July 21, 2014, 11:14:47 AM »
I am looking for a Air cleaner decal "Turbojet 430HP".Anyone know where I can find one? Repo is fine.
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 12:21:57 PM »
"Repro" stickers can be found on ebay. There's lots of vendors. If you google "Turbojet 430HP" a buch of options will come up also.
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 12:37:06 PM »
Tried all the places I could think of including Ebay and no luck yet.Must be a rarity.
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 01:40:46 PM »
Tried all the places I could think of including Ebay and no luck yet.Must be a rarity.

It's more than a rarity - it never existed as a production item.
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 02:58:08 PM »
The only 430 hp engine of the timeframe was the L88, only placed by Chevrolet in Corvettes, and it did not use an air cleaner decal.. as the 'hood itself' was the top cover for the Air cleaner.. :)

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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 05:40:31 PM »
The only 430 hp engine of the timeframe was the L88, only placed by Chevrolet in Corvettes, and it did not use an air cleaner decal.. as the 'hood itself' was the top cover for the Air cleaner.. :)



The ZL1 was also rated at 430 hp. The few period engine bay photos of ZL1 Camaros show either no air cleaner lid decal or just the 427 crossed flags.

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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 07:10:10 PM »
you're right William; I have always thought of the ZL1 as an 'all alum' L88... :)
and I didn't even think of ZL1 Camaros....   Is that what the OP was asking about?   Does he have one?  :)
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 09:54:49 PM »
The ZL1 didnt come to mind at the time,but I dont think I've ever seen a good pic of one either.I have an L88 for my 68 Camaro.
I did come across a Ebay seller that can make the decal,so I may go that route.
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 10:19:52 PM »
Someone over at Team Camaro makes custom stickers.. I had him make a couple for me a few years ago.  383 Turbo-Fire 425 Hoesepower sticker for my ZZ383 crate engine.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 02:46:07 AM »
The ZL1 didnt come to mind at the time,but I dont think I've ever seen a good pic of one either.I have an L88 for my 68 Camaro.
I did come across a Ebay seller that can make the decal,so I may go that route.

L88's speak for themselves...  :) ..  you don't need no damn sticker..  :)
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 03:58:03 AM »


L88's speak for themselves...  :) ..  you don't need no damn sticker..  :)

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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 10:06:40 AM »
The ZL1 didnt come to mind at the time,but I dont think I've ever seen a good pic of one either.I have an L88 for my 68 Camaro.
I did come across a Ebay seller that can make the decal,so I may go that route.

L88's speak for themselves...  :) ..  you don't need no damn sticker..  :)

I dont know,It ONLY has 430hp @5200......and its old Horsepower also. :)
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 01:04:24 PM »
The ZL1 didnt come to mind at the time,but I dont think I've ever seen a good pic of one either.I have an L88 for my 68 Camaro.
I did come across a Ebay seller that can make the decal,so I may go that route.

L88's speak for themselves...  :) ..  you don't need no damn sticker..  :)

I dont know, It ONLY has 430hp @5200......and its old Horsepower also. :)

From everything that has ever been written about L88/ZL1's, the horsepower is well above 430.. especially with headers to let it breathe.   Chevy rated the L88/ZL1 engine at 430 (5 hp below the Tri-power solid lifter version of the 427) .. I suspect to discourage orders of the engines by the 'typical buyer'...  Only the most informed racers knew of these engines at the time... :)        ...with headers and supertune, I doubt that 500-550 hp is out of line..
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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 03:22:17 PM »
Old Chevrolet engineering dyno test show 575@6800rpm for the ZL-1. Mine was right on that figure.

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Re: Air cleaner Decal needed
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 03:43:34 PM »
The ZL1 didnt come to mind at the time,but I dont think I've ever seen a good pic of one either.I have an L88 for my 68 Camaro.
I did come across a Ebay seller that can make the decal,so I may go that route.

L88's speak for themselves...  :) ..  you don't need no damn sticker..  :)

I dont know, It ONLY has 430hp @5200......and its old Horsepower also. :)

From everything that has ever been written about L88/ZL1's, the horsepower is well above 430.. especially with headers to let it breathe.   Chevy rated the L88/ZL1 engine at 430 (5 hp below the Tri-power solid lifter version of the 427) .. I suspect to discourage orders of the engines by the 'typical buyer'...  Only the most informed racers knew of these engines at the time... :)        ...with headers and supertune, I doubt that 500-550 hp is out of line..

My comment was tongue in cheek.. :)
I have done a bit of research the last couple years on the L88/ZL1 also.Theres not alot of info out there on these.From what I have come up with and having seen a couple dyno charts on them,they are quite impressive.GM as you stated wanted to discourage sales to the inexperienced and also due to the scutiny from the insurance companys they kept the HP rating lower.GM could not mis-state it for obvious reasons.Whereas the 427/425 and 427/435 engines were peak hp ratings they used Approx 1000 rpms below peak rating on the L88/ZL1.(430HP@5200) The dyno chart I seen on the L88 (1967/1968) with headers and good tune produced approx 557hp@6400.The ZL1 produced 585hp. As you may be aware in 69 the L88/ZL1 had a redesigned head/pistons with open chambers, venturi ports which breath better and a change to the camshaft which would account for the increase although the factory rating was not changed.
IMO the second design L88/ZL1 was pinnicle of success for Chevy.By todays standards maybe not so much,but going back to the late sixtys and to see how these were beefed up.7/16 pushrods,7/16 rod bolts using Boron steel with ground shanks,etc.According to my old info the L88 with a valve spring change (which I have done)the Redline is 7600 for drag racing and 7200 for Circle track(like Daytona).I paid $4500 for my L88 engine in 1982.
I think it quite fitting that it be nestled into my 68 RS/SS  :)
My Camaro will be stock looking on the outside.I dont expect the project to come to fruitation for 1-2 years.After this project is complete,I may build a 496 bb engine as a spare. :)

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