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« on: June 28, 2014, 01:04:17 PM »

I decided to go ahead and create a new thread because I think this needs more research.  Here is what we have so far.


George's (NoYenko's) trunk lid on his 69 that is thought to be for a 67:




My 67 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 68 lid:




My 12-67 68 trunk lid:




Father's 3-68 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 2-69 trunk lid:




My 7-69 trunk lid:

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2014, 03:03:40 PM »

 That is an early 67 deck lid. Need a full pic to tell just how early
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 03:18:39 PM »

Which one?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 03:25:50 PM »

Here's an old thread on early 67 lids with pictures, apparently LOS and NOR were different:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9554.0
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 03:38:54 PM »

Interesting.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 04:58:53 PM »

Updated:


George's (NoYenko's) trunk lid on his 69 that is for a 67:




427-King 8-66 LOS 67 lid:




My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 68 lid:




My 12-67 68 trunk lid:




Father's 3-68 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 2-69 trunk lid:




My 7-69 trunk lid:



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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 08:15:26 PM »

Does the one you call "My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid" have a big hole on each side of the latch?
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 11:05:54 PM »

My late great NOS lid - whoever has it got a good one.

I will try to add a pic of my Nov. '69 L78 lid tomorrow, which might give an earlier window. I also can look at my 03C Pace Car, and the 01C X77 to see if there is a two-design lid here.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 07:00:05 AM »

Does the one you call "My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid" have a big hole on each side of the latch?

Pretty sure they were added later on when the spoiler was installed.  They are not clean stamped holes.  Unless that is how they are suppose to be but I wouldnt think so.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 03:16:45 PM »

Original off a  09D 68 L.A.  L-78
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 03:19:45 PM »

Does it have the taps under the lip?  Cant see in the pic.  Thanks, Darrell
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 03:34:32 PM »

Darrell do you mean Caps, if so.... yes.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 05:10:57 PM »

Well I meant to type tabs not taps.  Im sorry but my mind is just not in it today. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 06:14:54 PM »

I am thinking this is what we are referring to tabs, I see them on the 67,68, & up to middle 69.  Vince thanks for the picture that's the lid I need. George
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 06:54:56 PM »

Thanks George I was a little confused....I don't see any tabs.
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 07:41:28 PM »

Are you sure it doesn't have the tabs?  I swear I think I can see an outline of one or two of them.  Also TA's were produced or went into production around Feb or March of 69.  So when would we see the transition of the lids?  


Lets see some Dec 68 or Jan & Feb 69 cars with original lids.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 08:05:37 PM »

 Here are two pictures on my '67's from 04B (original paint) and 05B (in primer).
 Hope it helps sort out when changes in the stampings approximately occurred

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 01:44:28 PM »

Hey Darrell, I cropped this picture of the lid, It's the best I have.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 07:53:28 PM »

<< Lets see some Dec 68 or Jan & Feb 69 cars with original lids. >>

Here's my original/untouched 02D 69Z with factory D80; it was shipped on February 28, 1969.  Smiley

2 more photos in next post.
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 07:54:46 PM »

Spoiler attaching hardware.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 08:00:50 PM »

John,

 I see the trunk lid striker plate is painted. I guess in '69, or sometime before, the process was changed to install it (and adjust likely) prior to paint?
My '67 is not painted.

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 08:04:38 PM »

Interesting to see the tabs & TA tabs.  The change from the tabs to no tabs with the tabs must have happened at a later date than I first thought.

John,

 I see the trunk lid striker plate is painted. I guess in '69, or sometime before, the process was changed to install it (and adjust likely) prior to paint?
My '67 is not painted.

Mike

67 was the only year that was plated.  68 & 9 were painted.
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 08:36:07 PM »

John thanks for the spoiler acorn nut picture, that is one of the points I lost at the Nationals. The reproduction nuts are too short. George
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2014, 06:16:09 PM »

Great thread guys! So am I correct in assuming that 67, 68, and early 69 lids are supposed have the tabs?
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2014, 06:20:53 PM »

All 67 & 68 had/have tabs but not all 69's have/had tabs. There was a change to no tabs just no sure when just yet. That's why I'd like to see more original lids.  My 07-69 & 11-69 do not have tabs but do have the TA holes.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 07:15:13 PM »

Guys beside keeping track of the tabs we may also want to note the oval hole stamped in the lower center of the lid. I have not seen that on most original lids, but have seen that on most NOS lids. It may be related to the stamping plant. This NOS lid was stamped out at the "T" stamping plant. Noted by the upper arrow in this picture. Another piece to the puzzle. George
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 07:32:21 PM »

The original trunk lid on my 03E X44 1969 does not have the tabs.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 06:37:22 AM »

Thanks George I missed that previously.

The original trunk lid on my 03E X44 1969 does not have the tabs.

Can you post a pic to add to the thread?
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 11:56:10 AM »

My RSZ28 trunk lid, 06A (June 18th) no tabs and the spoiler rear attachment is encapsulated washers nuts, spoiler had never been off. Owned the car since 74, no oval lower hole. True D80 car, Canadian Docs.
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 12:43:54 PM »

Darrell or George was the studs for the early 69 spoiler (Short one) and the later spoiler (longer one) in the same place on the lid? 
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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 01:34:19 PM »

The early 67 deck lids  also had the oval hole in the center like the nos ones do
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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 01:37:14 PM »

Guys I have started a spreadsheet to help keep this info in order.  If you can give me your build date (on trim tag), Plant (NOR or LOS), stamping Plant Code (if readable if it isnt please note as such) & a pic that would be great.  Thanks, Darrell
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 01:39:04 PM »

The early 67 deck lids  also had the oval hole in the center like the nos ones do

Only ones I have seen have been the early LOS lids.  Do you know of or have any info of any lids with the oval center hole that came from NOR?
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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2014, 06:50:29 PM »

Darrell or George was the studs for the early 69 spoiler (Short one) and the later spoiler (longer one) in the same place on the lid? 
I have both short & long spoilers and the stud location is the same. George
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2014, 07:32:16 PM »

Going to try and post some pics of mine. 03E X44 71 71 car.
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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2014, 08:36:13 PM »

Eric,
Do you have an overall pic of the lid?  Also can you make out the stamping in the center?
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2014, 08:39:01 PM »

We need more cars guys!!! Keep them coming!
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2014, 09:44:20 PM »

I'll get a better pic for you tomorrow.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »

Here are some more shots of my trunk lid from an 03E X44 car. It looks like my code is TA1 with an upside down 2 at the end. Hope these help  Grin
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2014, 07:12:27 PM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2014, 10:05:01 PM »

05D 68Z


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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2014, 09:56:09 PM »

Lid on a 67 11B LOS, stamped T43 (the 3 almost looks like a 5) and does not have the oval hole in the center toward the front edge.  One hole to the right of latch plate and two to the left were drilled out when a PO added the spoiler.  FWIW this is a convertible and the LH quarter is stamped H43 2 and the right is H43 3.







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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »

05D 68Z

Anyway you can make out the stamping?  Thanks for the pics!!

Lid on a 67 11B LOS, stamped T43 (the 3 almost looks like a 5) and does not have the oval hole in the center toward the front edge.  One hole to the right of latch plate and two to the left were drilled out when a PO added the spoiler.  FWIW this is a convertible and the LH quarter is stamped H43 2 and the right is H43 3.

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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2014, 10:28:10 AM »

I've haven't looked in a while because the paint is so thick, but it looks like a D 8 something.
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2014, 05:18:14 PM »

I've haven't looked in a while because the paint is so thick, but it looks like a D 8 something.

Also is your car NOR or LOS?
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2014, 05:20:29 PM »

LOS
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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2014, 10:38:43 AM »

Thanks,

Ok we still need more 03 & 04 69 cars (NOR & LOS) along with early 08-66 - 01-67  LOS
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2014, 06:57:17 PM »

Just wondering if anyone has deciphered the trunk stamp codes  Huh
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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2014, 07:36:37 PM »

Thanks to ko-lek-tor for the heads up.  


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#sheet
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2015, 08:25:34 PM »

Thanks for the info
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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2015, 09:51:16 PM »

Did only the Los built 67 trunk lid get a plated latch plate as shown on the red lid?
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« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2015, 01:20:31 PM »

My 67 05B
Did only the Los built 67 trunk lid get a plated latch plate as shown on the red lid?

My 67 05B NOR (as well as the 04B LOS) has a plated latch.

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« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2015, 02:10:20 PM »

I believe painted latches started with 68.  All 7s should be plated to the best of my memory.
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« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2015, 10:44:03 AM »

I am adding another lid to this.  Found on Hemmings this morning.  12A (1966) LOS car.

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« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2015, 06:31:00 PM »

Thanks,
Ok we still need more 03 & 04 69 cars (NOR & LOS) along with early 08-66 - 01-67  LOS
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« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2015, 07:01:26 PM »

Tabs under the lip, holes in the outer panel for the T/A spoiler, build week, assembly plant and a photo. (69)

Tabs, center oval hole in outer panel, emblem cutouts on underside, build week, assembly plant and a photo.  (67)
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« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2015, 10:34:05 PM »

Tabs under the lip, holes in the outer panel for the T/A spoiler, build week, assembly plant and a photo. (69)
OK. 04A Van Nuys build (NCRS shipper doc has production date of April 1, 1969), original paint under trunk lid. Sheetmetal date stamp T A 12. Photos tell the story. Interesting to note the original emblem holes in the lid where the spoiler sits, car is definitely a D80 and has one torsion rod thicker than the other.

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Passenger's side of trunk lid:


Lip detail (no tabs):


Emblem mounting and original (non-spoiler) emblem piercing:


Sheetmetal date code:


Front (leading edge) of spoiler mounting nut:


Rear (trailing edge) of spoiler mounting nut:

NOTE: spoiler is currently off the trunk lid during restoration, and was briefly removed in 1971 for the car to have it's drag-racing paint job applied, so no way to know if these nuts are original. However they do still have traces of dum-dum sealant around them.
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« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2015, 10:53:58 PM »

Looks like someone made a mistake on the line...  The lower emblem holes do not show signs of nuts ever being on the paint..  First D80 car I have seen with the lower emblem holes punched..  Very cool..
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« Reply #58 on: March 07, 2015, 12:33:57 AM »

Really? I guess I just assumed that all trunk lids were pierced at the time of manufacture ready for the standard (non-D80) emblem location, and additional holes were punched at the factory if the car had D80..... well that's something else I've learned!
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« Reply #59 on: March 07, 2015, 02:44:09 AM »

Found the following thread which may explain the 2 sets of emblem holes:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=3752.0
I haven't read right through it yet, but that is probably where I got the idea that (at least some) deck lids came pre-pierced in the std emblem location.
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« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2015, 06:36:22 AM »

No I remember that thread now..  I forgot there were some cars that had both holes early on.  I need to add that info to the spreadsheet. Thanks for that and sorry for the memory loss..
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« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2015, 05:00:24 PM »

Need to correct what I posted above, seems the emblem holes were drilled through a fixture, rather than punched.
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« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2015, 02:02:46 PM »

John stated there was only one deck lid supplied to the plants... that is until the Firebirds started being phased into Norwood from Lordstown with Trans Am spoilers not covering the lower emblem hole sets- all these had influence on the phase out of pre-punched deck lids.
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« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2015, 08:42:57 AM »

Pic is not that good and I can not verify for sure that this is original.  But it is on my 09C 68 Camaro.  
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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2015, 09:19:31 AM »

Thanks Bryon.  I assume it has the tabs under the lip?  Can you make out the stamp code also?
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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2015, 11:05:58 AM »

Darrell, I can't remember on the tabs and that is the only pic I have right now.  

I looked for the date code, but could not see one. There is quite a bit of paint on it, so I will need to look closer next time. It's still in winter storage.
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« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2015, 08:55:36 PM »

This is a picture from an 03E NOR X77 survivor, GM of Canada-documented car that has a production date of April 7, 1969; I noted it because the rear spoiler nuts are of the acorn style:
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« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2015, 09:24:56 PM »

What is 'winter storage'??  does that mean it's stored in a snow bank or something???  Smiley Grin

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« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2015, 07:22:08 PM »

Gary, unfortunately up here I can only enjoy the car from about April to September.  

But it was 88 degrees here yesterday.   Smiley

If you run across any Rally Green 69 Novas down your way, let me know.  Would prefer it to be a big block car, but any V8 in that color would be fine.
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« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2015, 08:45:50 PM »

If I come across a nice Nova of that vintage (any color), and it's priced in my budget, I'm going to buy it.. Smiley   
If it's out of my budget, I'll give you a buzz.. Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: March 18, 2015, 02:21:45 PM »

OK, I have a few more pics.  Can't guarantee exactly what these were from originally, but will make an attempt.

First, I think this is from a 68 Frost Green big block. Wrecked in the 70s.  Date stamped in center at normal location is T23.
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« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2015, 02:23:55 PM »

Second set.  I think this is from a 69. Might have been original black paint. Now mostly in primer.

Date stamped in center at normal location is 16.
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« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2015, 02:46:59 PM »

That second set of pics is the exactly the types of lids I need.  Lids with the T/A holes and the tabs vs lids without the tabs and T/A holes. Right now it looks like the Feb - Mar time frame of 69 when this change occurred..
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« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2015, 05:59:41 PM »

Darrell, the second one has a date code of 16th week. 
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« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2015, 07:07:16 PM »

This is a picture from an 03E NOR X77 survivor, GM of Canada-documented car that has a production date of April 7, 1969; I noted it because the rear spoiler nuts are of the acorn style:


Do you know the stamp date?

Darrell, the second one has a date code of 16th week. 

Thats strange.  That would put it in the April - May timeframe and none of the lids I have have the tabs & T/A holes..  Hmmmm
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« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2015, 08:01:04 PM »

Darrell, and it is just "16" - no other numbers or letters.
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« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2015, 09:42:23 PM »

'67 05C Trunk Lid (no spoiler)
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« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2015, 09:57:58 PM »

I neglected to mention that the 05C car is a Van Nuys Camaro
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« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2015, 03:31:45 AM »

Do you know the stamp date?
Can't find it in my notes, so probably didn't document it...... was a few years ago.
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« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2015, 06:38:12 AM »

Here is another one, this is an 04C survivor X77 that was posted for sale (IIRC) a few years ago by Stefano over at sYc. The third picture shows the trunk lid date stamp, not so easy to make out last digit but it's definitely T A1x, so has to be week 10 or later - up to 3rd week of April, week 16 or thereabouts.





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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2015, 07:09:27 AM »

Darrell, and it is just "16" - no other numbers or letters.

Ok, well crap..  That makes things a little harder then.. 


Here is another one, this is an 04C survivor X77 that was posted for sale (IIRC) a few years ago by Stefano over at sYc. The third picture shows the trunk lid date stamp, not so easy to make out last digit but it's definitely T A1x, so has to be week 10 or later - up to 3rd week of April, week 16 or thereabouts.
 

Tim, thank you!
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« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2015, 04:37:18 PM »

Darrell,  Hope I can help and add to your data.  Here's the original trunk lid to 03B Nor Z.  Has no tabs.  Also, was there a particular location where GM date stamped these lids ?  I looked all around and couldn't find anything   Huh  The lid was repainted to white back in the 70's,  so maybe it's hidden underneath somewhere. 
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« Reply #82 on: March 25, 2015, 08:53:28 PM »

That does help.  Thanks Darrell.


The stamp is in the lower center portion of the inner layer portion of the lid.
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« Reply #83 on: March 26, 2015, 03:27:34 AM »

You can see the date stamp in my 3rd picture above, to the right of the jack instruction label. There is often another stamp in the center, below the jack label, but it's often fainter (less defined) like the one visible in that same photo.
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« Reply #84 on: March 26, 2015, 01:38:34 PM »

Update to my 03B Z.   I was easily able to find the date stamp near where some white paint was beginning to peeling.  The original Dusk blue can be seen underneath the white which also assures me this is the original lid as well.

Dated:  T A 10  (10th week of the Calendar year, first week of March)
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« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2015, 03:18:24 PM »

Here's an original T52 dated trunk lid on an 01B Norwood '67 Camaro. The latch and bolts are painted.
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« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2015, 04:29:24 PM »

can't find the date code, un-touched underneath so I'm not sanding.(you understand) Latches/bolts shot. Car's 68. 04D Norwood ,non-spoiler. See anything that helps your quest?
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« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2015, 11:00:25 PM »

can't find the date code, un-touched underneath so I'm not sanding.(you understand) Latches/bolts shot. Car's 68. 04D Norwood ,non-spoiler. See anything that helps your quest?

It's probably under the jacking instructions.
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« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2015, 09:56:23 AM »

As shown in the photo below
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« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2015, 06:59:03 PM »

maybe 1 9 left to right honestly can not make it out for sure.

I still haven't got the body shop pics when it was stripped ,anything he found he recorded. I did not want under the deck lid touched so it may forever be a mystery. Of course could probably make a pretty educated guess.

I'm assuming hole above date code was for Ziebart?? Looks punched, not drilled.
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