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« on: June 28, 2014, 01:04:17 PM »

I decided to go ahead and create a new thread because I think this needs more research.  Here is what we have so far.


George's (NoYenko's) trunk lid on his 69 that is thought to be for a 67:




My 67 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 68 lid:




My 12-67 68 trunk lid:




Father's 3-68 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 2-69 trunk lid:




My 7-69 trunk lid:

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2014, 03:03:40 PM »

 That is an early 67 deck lid. Need a full pic to tell just how early
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 03:18:39 PM »

Which one?
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 03:25:50 PM »

Here's an old thread on early 67 lids with pictures, apparently LOS and NOR were different:
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9554.0
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 03:38:54 PM »

Interesting.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 04:58:53 PM »

Updated:


George's (NoYenko's) trunk lid on his 69 that is for a 67:




427-King 8-66 LOS 67 lid:




My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 68 lid:




My 12-67 68 trunk lid:




Father's 3-68 trunk lid:




George's (NoYenko's) pic of a 2-69 trunk lid:




My 7-69 trunk lid:



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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 08:15:26 PM »

Does the one you call "My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid" have a big hole on each side of the latch?
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 11:05:54 PM »

My late great NOS lid - whoever has it got a good one.

I will try to add a pic of my Nov. '69 L78 lid tomorrow, which might give an earlier window. I also can look at my 03C Pace Car, and the 01C X77 to see if there is a two-design lid here.

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 07:00:05 AM »

Does the one you call "My 11-66 NOR 67 trunk lid" have a big hole on each side of the latch?

Pretty sure they were added later on when the spoiler was installed.  They are not clean stamped holes.  Unless that is how they are suppose to be but I wouldnt think so.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 03:16:45 PM »

Original off a  09D 68 L.A.  L-78
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 03:19:45 PM »

Does it have the taps under the lip?  Cant see in the pic.  Thanks, Darrell
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 03:34:32 PM »

Darrell do you mean Caps, if so.... yes.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 05:10:57 PM »

Well I meant to type tabs not taps.  Im sorry but my mind is just not in it today. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 06:14:54 PM »

I am thinking this is what we are referring to tabs, I see them on the 67,68, & up to middle 69.  Vince thanks for the picture that's the lid I need. George
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 06:54:56 PM »

Thanks George I was a little confused....I don't see any tabs.
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 07:41:28 PM »

Are you sure it doesn't have the tabs?  I swear I think I can see an outline of one or two of them.  Also TA's were produced or went into production around Feb or March of 69.  So when would we see the transition of the lids?  


Lets see some Dec 68 or Jan & Feb 69 cars with original lids.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 08:05:37 PM »

 Here are two pictures on my '67's from 04B (original paint) and 05B (in primer).
 Hope it helps sort out when changes in the stampings approximately occurred

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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 01:44:28 PM »

Hey Darrell, I cropped this picture of the lid, It's the best I have.
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 07:53:28 PM »

<< Lets see some Dec 68 or Jan & Feb 69 cars with original lids. >>

Here's my original/untouched 02D 69Z with factory D80; it was shipped on February 28, 1969.  Smiley

2 more photos in next post.
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 07:54:46 PM »

Spoiler attaching hardware.
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« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 08:00:50 PM »

John,

 I see the trunk lid striker plate is painted. I guess in '69, or sometime before, the process was changed to install it (and adjust likely) prior to paint?
My '67 is not painted.

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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 08:04:38 PM »

Interesting to see the tabs & TA tabs.  The change from the tabs to no tabs with the tabs must have happened at a later date than I first thought.

John,

 I see the trunk lid striker plate is painted. I guess in '69, or sometime before, the process was changed to install it (and adjust likely) prior to paint?
My '67 is not painted.

Mike

67 was the only year that was plated.  68 & 9 were painted.
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« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 08:36:07 PM »

John thanks for the spoiler acorn nut picture, that is one of the points I lost at the Nationals. The reproduction nuts are too short. George
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2014, 06:16:09 PM »

Great thread guys! So am I correct in assuming that 67, 68, and early 69 lids are supposed have the tabs?
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2014, 06:20:53 PM »

All 67 & 68 had/have tabs but not all 69's have/had tabs. There was a change to no tabs just no sure when just yet. That's why I'd like to see more original lids.  My 07-69 & 11-69 do not have tabs but do have the TA holes.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2014, 07:15:13 PM »

Guys beside keeping track of the tabs we may also want to note the oval hole stamped in the lower center of the lid. I have not seen that on most original lids, but have seen that on most NOS lids. It may be related to the stamping plant. This NOS lid was stamped out at the "T" stamping plant. Noted by the upper arrow in this picture. Another piece to the puzzle. George
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2014, 07:32:21 PM »

The original trunk lid on my 03E X44 1969 does not have the tabs.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 06:37:22 AM »

Thanks George I missed that previously.

The original trunk lid on my 03E X44 1969 does not have the tabs.

Can you post a pic to add to the thread?
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 11:56:10 AM »

My RSZ28 trunk lid, 06A (June 18th) no tabs and the spoiler rear attachment is encapsulated washers nuts, spoiler had never been off. Owned the car since 74, no oval lower hole. True D80 car, Canadian Docs.
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 12:43:54 PM »

Darrell or George was the studs for the early 69 spoiler (Short one) and the later spoiler (longer one) in the same place on the lid? 
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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2014, 01:34:19 PM »

The early 67 deck lids  also had the oval hole in the center like the nos ones do
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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2014, 01:37:14 PM »

Guys I have started a spreadsheet to help keep this info in order.  If you can give me your build date (on trim tag), Plant (NOR or LOS), stamping Plant Code (if readable if it isnt please note as such) & a pic that would be great.  Thanks, Darrell
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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2014, 01:39:04 PM »

The early 67 deck lids  also had the oval hole in the center like the nos ones do

Only ones I have seen have been the early LOS lids.  Do you know of or have any info of any lids with the oval center hole that came from NOR?
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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2014, 06:50:29 PM »

Darrell or George was the studs for the early 69 spoiler (Short one) and the later spoiler (longer one) in the same place on the lid? 
I have both short & long spoilers and the stud location is the same. George
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2014, 07:32:16 PM »

Going to try and post some pics of mine. 03E X44 71 71 car.
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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2014, 08:36:13 PM »

Eric,
Do you have an overall pic of the lid?  Also can you make out the stamping in the center?
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2014, 08:39:01 PM »

We need more cars guys!!! Keep them coming!
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2014, 09:44:20 PM »

I'll get a better pic for you tomorrow.
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »

Here are some more shots of my trunk lid from an 03E X44 car. It looks like my code is TA1 with an upside down 2 at the end. Hope these help  Grin
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2014, 07:12:27 PM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2014, 10:05:01 PM »

05D 68Z


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« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2014, 09:56:09 PM »

Lid on a 67 11B LOS, stamped T43 (the 3 almost looks like a 5) and does not have the oval hole in the center toward the front edge.  One hole to the right of latch plate and two to the left were drilled out when a PO added the spoiler.  FWIW this is a convertible and the LH quarter is stamped H43 2 and the right is H43 3.







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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »

05D 68Z

Anyway you can make out the stamping?  Thanks for the pics!!

Lid on a 67 11B LOS, stamped T43 (the 3 almost looks like a 5) and does not have the oval hole in the center toward the front edge.  One hole to the right of latch plate and two to the left were drilled out when a PO added the spoiler.  FWIW this is a convertible and the LH quarter is stamped H43 2 and the right is H43 3.

Thanks!!!
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2014, 10:28:10 AM »

I've haven't looked in a while because the paint is so thick, but it looks like a D 8 something.
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« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2014, 05:18:14 PM »

I've haven't looked in a while because the paint is so thick, but it looks like a D 8 something.

Also is your car NOR or LOS?
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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2014, 05:20:29 PM »

LOS
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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2014, 10:38:43 AM »

Thanks,

Ok we still need more 03 & 04 69 cars (NOR & LOS) along with early 08-66 - 01-67  LOS
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2014, 06:57:17 PM »

Just wondering if anyone has deciphered the trunk stamp codes  Huh
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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2014, 07:36:37 PM »

Thanks to ko-lek-tor for the heads up.  


http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#sheet
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