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« on: May 16, 2014, 04:25:35 PM »

Any opinions? Car has a tach I don't think is right with 5500 redline. Some finishes not correct but color is turquoise on deluxe turquoise.
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1967 Plymouth GTX Hemi, 4 speed, dana
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2014, 04:27:29 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2014, 08:42:17 PM »

Don't see any broach marks and the area of the stamping looks like it has been played with (cleaned up) - in addition to the font of the actual VIN stamp looking pretty large relative to that of the engine assembly code stamp from what I see..
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2014, 09:36:43 PM »

Pad appears to have been scraped; you can see the suggestion of "crosshatch" marks of a blade-type scraper in the reflection of the pad. Font looks a little too crisp, and I agree with the suspicious VIN font sizes.

All in my opinion - for what it's worth.
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1969 Z28 X77 LeMans/W
1969 X66 L78 Cortez/BVT
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2014, 09:37:04 PM »

Nice color combo. Tach is likely correct, pad is suspicious.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2014, 10:15:55 PM »

It has a few paint issues. Fuzzy in color near rear stripes if you look close, too much gloss in places. The combination is striking. I will post more pics. Has California smog on it. Jerry's book has one mp stamp and it is similar but you can't see the vin in his picture.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2014, 10:38:15 PM »

Rest of car
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2014, 01:29:03 AM »

Sold for $104,000
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2014, 06:52:30 AM »

That was the non RS car. Had replaced block . Had great letter from early owner complaining to gm that a rod bolt came loose and damaged the block. He had asked for a new throw out bearing when the motor was out and dealer forgot/didn't do it. Was upset it cost him $35 to get it fixed!
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2014, 08:35:29 AM »

That was the non RS car. Had replaced block . Had great letter from early owner complaining to gm that a rod bolt came loose and damaged the block. He had asked for a new throw out bearing when the motor was out and dealer forgot/didn't do it. Was upset it cost him $35 to get it fixed!

Hmmm..bad eyes on my part. Didnt realize there were not 1 but 2 67 Z28s in the auction. I see the one your talking about is actually going today. I'm heading to Indy today and going to stop by the auction tomorrow and catch the tail end of it. Hope I get a chance to see these cars before they leave.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 09:13:38 AM »

Don't see any broach marks and the area of the stamping looks like it has been played with (cleaned up) - in addition to the font of the actual VIN stamp looking pretty large relative to that of the engine assembly code stamp from what I see..

Just to address the font size - I've seen many LOS cars where the partial is smaller than the engine code
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 11:11:22 AM »

Here it is facing you and punched up a little in size. I think I see a 3 and a maybe 7 and possibly some other numbers in the smooth area of the pad. As it looks concaved to me. I would be SUPER suspicious about that no broached area. Just my 2 cents, I wouldn't buy it JUST cause of that. Factory regrind and stamp?? Danny
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2014, 11:36:19 AM »

There seems to be an extra VIN stamp above the engine stamp - didn't quite get cleaned off. I don't think the factory would have done that, considering the VIN stamping was at the Norwood. See the small font "4" in the attached pic (arrow).

The area around the stamping does appear if it was shaved down compared to the are above it. I really don't think it's legit - considering the worth of an original block to the selling price of a car without one, it adds considerably to the suspicion that it's not original.

Just my opinion -

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2014, 11:59:04 AM »

Compare the 67 pad to this original 68 MO pad for font size, position and relation to the head and engine code. I know it's a 68, could be a little different, but it's an original Flint stamp and Norwood VIN - for comparison -

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2014, 12:13:05 PM »

Got a better picture. On the 5 last in vin
You can see what appears to be another 5. I am suspicious. Probably someone won't see it and bring to much. I know tranny has no stamp springs painted, wrong booster and some paint has wrong gloss. Of course no owner!
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