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« on: March 09, 2014, 09:37:48 PM »

Hello all,newbie here trying to collect original parts for my 69 X-55 correct restoration.If I see a part on E bay that claims to be original and no one bids or buy it now / make offer and it is relisted should I consider that a bad sign ? HBC has the same item at 3X the price. Should I post the E bay item # and seller in a public forum and ask what the CRG members think about the part or should I PM someone and ask for their opinion about the part. Just trying to do the right thing and not make to many mistakes and making someone get a case of the a$$ . Ialso  don't want to spend big $ only to be told I bought repro/incorrect parts. What should I do about a potentially awkward situation like this. Thanks in advance for all who reply.
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 10:00:29 PM »

Go ahead and post the eBay link here.  CRG members will be happy to chime in with their opinions of the part.

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 04:21:50 AM »

Just don't be shocked if a CRG member bids against you.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 07:09:41 AM »

Just don't be shocked if a CRG member bids against you.
Also don't be surprised if a fellow CRGer has the same item you are looking for and will make you a better deal, just because you are a member and contributor and they don't mind helping you out as long as they know it is not being flipped on Ebay.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 07:19:14 AM »

Just don't be shocked if a CRG member bids against you.
Also don't be surprised if a fellow CRGer has the same item you are looking for and will make you a better deal, just because you are a member and contributor and they don't mind helping you out as long as they know it is not being flipped on Ebay.

I've done that several times and twice now the part ends up on ebay.  Oh well.... Smiley
Another key is do your homework as one has time during the auction run time. Search here and team Camaro for info and goggle for info. In many cases one can find out what is correct fairly easy. But as stated, if not sure post the link and members will chime in.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 10:11:13 AM »

 HBC is usually more expensive for the same parts that can be purchased elsewhere. Example: BB valve covers are way over priced when compared to the exact same ones sold by Crane Corvettes (both eBay pricing). Do your shopping.
  Unless they (HBC or anyone else for that matter) have a truly one of a kind, hard to impossible to find part that you must have, keep looking.
Also, do not believe an item sold for XYZ usage is actually correct. Many times it isn't. As other have said here, post the URL for review.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 11:20:11 AM »

That's a bit tough to answer. I had a question about a part here and it was bought up by another member. So I would say sometimes you have to take the chance/risk if you want it bad enough. As 'maroman' says, "don't be shocked if a CRG member bids against you".
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 01:16:34 PM »

At any given time on any day there will be five times as many "Guests" reading through this forum than registered CRG-ers...
Spend some time here... work out a relationship with the ones that seem to have the information you need... and send PMs.
When I first signed on just now, there were 51 people online.  Nine were registered, the rest were Guests.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 01:53:54 PM »

HBC is usually more expensive for the same parts that can be purchased elsewhere. Example: BB valve covers are way over priced when compared to the exact same ones sold by Crane Corvettes (both eBay pricing). Do your shopping.
  Unless they (HBC or anyone else for that matter) have a truly one of a kind, hard to impossible to find part that you must have, keep looking.
Also, do not believe an item sold for XYZ usage is actually correct. Many times it isn't. As other have said here, post the URL for review.

Mike
For an example about HBC pricing.....for some time now, I have been watching a NOS Y55 battery on HBC with a price of $1650.00.  I recently found and bought one identical to the HBC battery for a fraction of their price.  Like Mike said, keep looking and keep doing your shopping.  Also, as Chick stated, keep doing your research.  You may be new to the hobby but one of the keys is to continually research, research, research.  Don't ever quit looking for parts as well as information and if you still have questions, just get on here and ask.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 02:41:47 PM »

I wonder why so many are guests? former members? If you own a first gen, even if you never posted a comment I am unsure why you wouldn't become a member. The best part its FREE.
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I wonder why so many are guests? former members? If you own a first gen, even if you never posted a comment I am unsure why you wouldn't become a member. The best part its FREE.
Different strokes. Many don't want to register and give up information, they only read for their own benefit  Go to a VW site, guys only post to show their 25 NOS impossible parts to let others know they aren't for sale. It's the personality on the forum. I like this one, lots of help and info, wish I knew more detail info to help.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 05:26:57 PM »

The example of the VW site made me laugh. So whats worse posting a pic , but not selling or posting a part and then asking 5 times the going rate? If someone is going to bid it up for a crazy amount thats one thing, but starting out at a astronomical price I don't understand.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 05:45:33 PM »

A lot of the time I read this and I am not signed in. I don't want you guys to think I am in here all the time!
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 05:54:43 PM »

Well maybe a lot of members only sign in when they are ready to add to a topic, it signs me in automatically.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 06:04:10 PM »

I wonder why so many are guests? former members? If you own a first gen, even if you never posted a comment I am unsure why you wouldn't become a member. The best part its FREE.
Different strokes. Many don't want to register and give up information, they only read for their own benefit  Go to a VW site, guys only post to show their 25 NOS impossible parts to let others know they aren't for sale. It's the personality on the forum. I like this one, lots of help and info, wish I knew more detail info to help.


Isn't that called 'Status Quo'? As I was growing up I always heard that term used, mainly pointed towards the snobby upper crust and well off kind of people who thought because they were rich they were better then anyone else.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 06:59:07 PM »

Ok,had to call my son to tell me how to postURL.I am not very computer savvy .Here is the part I was referring to in my first post.what do you guys think ?http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CAMARO-SS-RS-Pace-Car-Cowl-Induction-Spacer-Ring-ORIGINAL-/180973366567?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a22da6d27&vxp=mtr.Thanks in advance.Not looking for NOS part but something to restore. Going to reuse as much of my Camaro as possible but will have to buy what Parts for Cowl Induction that I don't already have.decided to go with ZL2 for resto as I have so much NOS Parts for this. Thanks for your help
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 07:11:10 PM »

Here's the link...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180973366567?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D180973366567%26_rdc%3D1

It's been on eBay for over a year!

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 08:11:02 PM »

That's a little pricey. I have one that has been in my inventory since I bought my first camaro in 1975. Send me a PM, I would sell mine for half of that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 08:16:02 PM »

That's a little pricey. I have one that has been in my inventory since I bought my first camaro in 1975. Send me a PM, I would sell mine for half of that.
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That, my friends, is a true CRGer! Very kind gesture Buddy. I hope he takes you up on this. It is not even my car and I am excited for 69 SS X55. I hope we all can help each other get our cars finished. Thanks.
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 08:30:38 PM »

That's a little pricey. I have one that has been in my inventory since I bought my first camaro in 1975. Send me a PM, I would sell mine for half of that.
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That, my friends, is a true CRGer! Very kind gesture Buddy. I hope he takes you up on this. It is not even my car and I am excited for 69 SS X55. I hope we all can help each other get our cars finished. Thanks.

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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2014, 09:37:49 PM »

When I sold the car in 76, it had  triangle foam air cleaner on it that I bought at motion performance. I couldn't afford anything else from there!
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2014, 10:56:20 PM »

There are decent reproduction parts for that spacer ring for around $40...shipped to your door.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1969-Camaro-Cowl-Induction-Air-Breather-Top-Spacer-Ring-350-Small-Block-/360512663885?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53f03ab14d&vxp=mtr
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2014, 10:39:39 AM »

Butch, I found the extension this morning, will get a quote on shipping today.
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 07:49:57 PM »

Thanks ,I am looking forward to collecting the rest of the parts to start my resto on my car. I will have to pay someone to do the body panels and trunk. Even though I am almost 60 I can still handle the mechanical part of the job ,I can also do a lot of the interior myself. My plan is to reuse all of the interior except the headliner carpet. Will know more when I get the carpet out. Glad this site and members are around for good advice. I can avoid  SIS ( self inflicted stupidity) this time on the resto! I will get my son to show me how to post pics'. I live out in the country and have a slow Internet .Thanks to all.
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2014, 01:35:08 PM »

That's a little pricey. I have one that has been in my inventory since I bought my first camaro in 1975. Send me a PM, I would sell mine for half of that.
Buddy
That, my friends, is a true CRGer! Very kind gesture Buddy. I hope he takes you up on this. It is not even my car and I am excited for 69 SS X55. I hope we all can help each other get our cars finished. Thanks.

Here you go guys...


I want to add a "BIG THANKS" to GaryW, "69Z28-RS" for giving me the opportunity to purchase an item I had previously inquired about here but couldn't buy because of an illness that I was going thru at that time. This restores my faith in that there are people out there that will go out of the way to help others. Thanks Gary...I got the item today and it looks better than I hoped it would and the patina is perfect. Now, I just have to figure out how to replace the cable on it so it will work. 
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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2014, 01:37:26 PM »

The only reason he sold you that was I told him you were going to paint your car Orange... Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2014, 01:43:04 PM »

The only reason he sold you that was I told him you were going to paint your car Orange... Cheesy

I had a Carousel Red 69 GTO Judge for a while in the 90's. Same as H.O. and I just had enough of that color. I think 'Cortez Silver' is way better than any other color....  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2014, 01:58:50 PM »

The only reason he sold you that was I told him you were going to paint your car Orange... Cheesy

I had a Carousel Red 69 GTO Judge for a while in the 90's. Same as H.O. and I just had enough of that color. I think 'Cortez Silver' is way better than any other color....  Roll Eyes

Finally - a man of reason concerning color (just kidding for all of you thousands of Hugger Orange fanatics).

Ditto on the seal extensions - glad you had the offer on the one; repros are pretty decent for the extension and the seal flanges.

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« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2014, 02:18:19 PM »

.....I got the item today and it looks better than I hoped it would and the patina is perfect. Now, I just have to figure out how to replace the cable on it so it will work. 

The cable detaches very easily at the mast mounting... OR if you are 'good', you might be able to splice on a new end for the radio plug in.  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2014, 02:39:46 PM »

.....I got the item today and it looks better than I hoped it would and the patina is perfect. Now, I just have to figure out how to replace the cable on it so it will work. 

The cable detaches very easily at the mast mounting... OR if you are 'good', you might be able to splice on a new end for the radio plug in.  Smiley

Just tugged on it and doesn't seem it will come out very easy, so I'm guessing it is a firm fit. If I can replace the connection end I'll give it a shot IF I can find some info on how. Gonna google to see if I can fine something.
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2014, 04:28:53 PM »

.....I got the item today and it looks better than I hoped it would and the patina is perfect. Now, I just have to figure out how to replace the cable on it so it will work. 

The cable detaches very easily at the mast mounting... OR if you are 'good', you might be able to splice on a new end for the radio plug in.  Smiley

Just tugged on it and doesn't seem it will come out very easy, so I'm guessing it is a firm fit. If I can replace the connection end I'll give it a shot IF I can find some info on how. Gonna google to see if I can fine something.
.....I got the item today and it looks better than I hoped it would and the patina is perfect. Now, I just have to figure out how to replace the cable on it so it will work. 

The cable detaches very easily at the mast mounting... OR if you are 'good', you might be able to splice on a new end for the radio plug in.  Smiley

Just tugged on it and doesn't seem it will come out very easy, so I'm guessing it is a firm fit. If I can replace the connection end I'll give it a shot IF I can find some info on how. Gonna google to see if I can fine something.

Here's a CRG link that shows the connector on the upper end of the cable (at the hood), and a second photo that shows the bottom end of the antenna mast (the end that just pushes into the receptacle), and then locks in with the lock nut.   To separate, just remove the upper lock nut, then the antenna mast should slide out.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=3457.0
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2014, 04:37:30 PM »

Yeah....I figured out that part a long time ago, that's a no brainer...it's the black cable attached to the base that needs replacing/repairing. Is it possible to remove this or does the hole thing have to go into the trash for a new one?
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2014, 04:59:59 PM »

Gary, check your email. I just found that owners manual that I thought I sent you already! Sucks to get old!!
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2014, 05:21:11 PM »

Yeah....I figured out that part a long time ago, that's a no brainer...it's the black cable attached to the base that needs replacing/repairing. Is it possible to remove this or does the hole thing have to go into the trash for a new one?

Gary, The part that I sent you needs the end replaced on the cable that plugs into the radio.  If you can find out the proper length for a '69 Camaro antenna cable (from front fender antenna), you could cut off the cable that is on the antenna, and re-install the plug in connector (for the radio end).  I don't think that would be a big deal for someone familiar with making up electrical cables, although antenna cables require a little more skill/knowledge.  Probably any person with electrical technician experience could do it well.
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2014, 05:44:02 PM »

Gary W. Apparently I can't type either! Just re-sent some photos
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2014, 05:51:28 PM »

Yeah....I figured out that part a long time ago, that's a no brainer...it's the black cable attached to the base that needs replacing/repairing. Is it possible to remove this or does the hole thing have to go into the trash for a new one?

Gary, The part that I sent you needs the end replaced on the cable that plugs into the radio.  If you can find out the proper length for a '69 Camaro antenna cable (from front fender antenna), you could cut off the cable that is on the antenna, and re-install the plug in connector (for the radio end).  I don't think that would be a big deal for someone familiar with making up electrical cables, although antenna cables require a little more skill/knowledge.  Probably any person with electrical technician experience could do it well.

I might be able to get this guy where my wife works to check it out. He does most all the electronics work there, if he can't he'll probably know someone who does. So the R & R of that cable is impossible then from what I'm getting.
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