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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2021, 01:17:19 AM »
A little more information:

I checked the decklid for date codes, and it has a date code that falls in line with the build of the car.  That is an old sticker that has not been applied any time recently.  And why would someone put a Firebird jack sticker on a Camaro decklid many years after the fact?  When people fake things, they try to make them look as close to the norms as possible.

I was looking through my documents and came across the paperwork from when the second owner purchased the car in 1971 from Ellis Brooks Chevrolet in San Francisco.  On it is an imprint of the original protecto-plate for the car, showing the correct VIN that matches the car, the assembly date stamp that matches the engine, the exact same date stamp that appears on the transmission, and the rear end stamping.  In my mind, this puts this to rest as some type of factory aberration.  I think the odds that someone found a Muncie M-20 with the exact same stamp as the protecto-plate, along with a stange VIN that happens to have the Los Angeles "L" in the sequence are extremely slim.  If someone stamped the date on the case at a later date, why would the not stamp a matching VIN to the car as well?  This date code stamping on the transmission has already been verified as a legitimate stamping.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2021, 09:28:21 PM »
Well with that info, I would say that the Vin was a goof up and not a Firebird VIN but a Goofed Camaro VIN. The seat and sticker who knows.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2021, 04:32:05 PM »
Yeah, it's pretty goofy. :)

So how do you describe a car like this?  I suppose technically it's not "numbers matching", or at least not "VIN matching".  I guess you would describe it as "documented original drivetrain"?  Just curious in case I decide to list it somewhere.  Seems like you get a lot of grey area on this and some shady wording by some, although I think this car is about as honest as they come.

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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2021, 02:24:35 AM »
Yeah, it's pretty goofy. :)

So how do you describe a car like this?  I suppose technically it's not "numbers matching", or at least not "VIN matching".  I guess you would describe it as "documented original drivetrain"?  Just curious in case I decide to list it somewhere.  Seems like you get a lot of grey area on this and some shady wording by some, although I think this car is about as honest as they come.
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Re: VN built 69 Camaro with a Firebird VIN on the transmission?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2021, 04:06:42 PM »
The date on the POP for transmission assembly is the same as what is on the transmission. Now I am thinking there is a better than average chance of it being original to the car. The engine and axle are original.
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