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NICE CAR, but can the people bidding really be this stupid? The POP doesn't match his VIN and the Windshield Sticker is a reproduction!

POP VIN is 124678N434704 and the car is 124678N433549

Since the POP didn't match the VIN, I sent the seller an email asking him about it. His reply was that "The protecto plate came with the car when I bought it a few years back and I've had it in my safe ever since"

Well, considering that POP was on ebay just a few months ago (08-03-13 by seller fdgoodnight), it's a bit difficult to believe his story! So yet another ebay seller caught in a lie.

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 03:43:51 PM »
For SOME...   lies are an everyday fact of life, and apparently the ONLY thing they know..  :(    and once they tell so many, how would they know truth even if it bit them?
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 03:58:05 PM »
For SOME...   lies are an everyday fact of life, and apparently the ONLY thing they know..  :(    and once they tell so many, how would they know truth even if it bit them?
So true about lies, Gary!

Good detective work, Ed!  "Oh what a tangled web we weave!"  This is a perfect example of how so much wrong information can become "attached" to a car.  We'll probably see a post from the new buyer in the next few months asking for "justification"...  ::)
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 04:04:58 PM »
So. Fla.....
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 04:43:24 PM »
Well, considering that POP was on ebay just a few months ago (08-03-13 by seller fdgoodnight), it's a bit difficult to believe his story! So yet another ebay seller caught in a lie.

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 05:16:51 PM »
Another "BAD" car from Florida!!  Anyway, here is his explanation:

                   
Dear x66ss396,

Hello, yes the protecto plate is slightly different, the last 3 digits are off. From what I was told there were often slight mistakes made when stamping the plates. The window sticker matches the car exactly and shows the same dealership as the protecto plate. The plate also shows the car being the same Color, Convertible, AC, Options ect as the car has. Plus the dealership it was sold at. So the chances of it not being for this car is very slim. It was most likely a mis stamp like I was told.


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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 05:56:15 PM »
 You can still buy 93 octane non ethanol gas in Florida?

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 05:57:33 PM »
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Dear x66ss396,

Hello, yes the protecto plate is slightly different, the last 3 digits are off. From what I was told there were often slight mistakes made when stamping the plates. The window sticker matches the car exactly and shows the same dealership as the protecto plate. The plate also shows the car being the same Color, Convertible, AC, Options ect as the car has. Plus the dealership it was sold at. So the chances of it not being for this car is very slim. It was most likely a mis stamp like I was told.

Boy, this guy sure likes to make up stories!

Here's what I asked him originally:

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You show the VIN as 124678N433549 in the description and on the window sticker, but the protecto plate shows the VIN to be 124678N434704 and is for a 327/210 with a Powerglide! Did you post the wrong protecto plate picture???

His first reply was:

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Just had to go look myself. The protecto plate came with the car when I bought it a few years back and I've had it in my safe ever since dont know how to distinguish the size engine or transmission from it. But the number on it is as you said slightly different from the Vin. Let me call a friend who knows more than I do and get back to you. This is the first time I ever noticed this. Give me an hour or so to ask him.


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I sent him pictures of the protecto plate and the vin on the car along with the cowl body tag and the window sticker. He said the the vin on the protecto plate although close is not correct although the color, interior, options, A/C, convertible and dealership is. So he said only thing he could think is maybe at some point the dealership mixed up protecto plates during warranty work or something because it's so close. I'm not that knowledgeable about them so I would have to go with his response.

None of this explains the fact that he purchased the POP on ebay a few months ago and the windshield sticker is a fake!

Ed

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 06:19:27 PM »
Unbelievable Ed, sad really.
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 06:20:58 PM »
Not just a liar, but a bad liar. The last FOUR digits are off, not the last 3.

Bid is up to 34,900 and reserve not met. The problem with dishonest sellers is that nothing can be trusted, even the bids are suspect.

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2013, 06:40:36 PM »
Pretty car ( don't know what's under the paint)  Seems with the price of resto mods---if your just honest ,you could probably get an honest price. And not cheap. Just my thoughts.

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 06:55:33 PM »
You can still buy 93 octane non ethanol gas in Florida?

We still have 100 octane gas at some of our pumps here in California.

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 09:25:07 PM »
what city in california have you seen those?
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 11:34:46 PM »
Am I looking at something wrong or does trim tag show white top an and window sticker show black top?

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 12:55:56 AM »
what city in california have you seen those?

Redwood City, CA
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 01:15:52 AM »
Am I looking at something wrong or does trim tag show white top an and window sticker show black top?

Yep, Lemans blue with white roof on the cowl tag.  White top was the standard convertible top color with lemans blue.
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 04:02:30 AM »
what city in california have you seen those?

Redwood City, CA
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funny I lived in redwood city for years and would drive right under that sign, I never looked into what "government test"  was actually done. I live in southern california now between L.A. and San Diego, weather is pretty similar, housing is affordable, and the schools are great for our kids. :) I miss going to giants games though :(
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2013, 12:48:14 AM »
also date on pro-tec-to plate is 5-26-68 car was built 3rd week of May.  I don't think a car could be bought in Virginia and built in Ohio on same week, oh and 5-26-68 was a Sunday dealer was not open on Sunday

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2013, 12:52:25 AM »
Hey give the guy credit now.....at least he identified it as a Camaro.. :D
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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 05:10:27 PM »
not so nice patchwork in the trunk...
no joint between bottom of rearend panel and quarters...

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 05:40:48 PM »
My thoughts:  just when you think you've seen and heard it all,  something more amazing shows up!

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Re: Another ebay seller caught in a lie (Geez, now THERE'S a surprise!)
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 08:23:00 PM »
not so nice patchwork in the trunk...
no joint between bottom of rearend panel and quarters...
The seam is faint but is there. Lighting and camera settings obscure it.